did Mayweather duck Margarito?

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  • BrometheusBob.
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    #41
    May 2016 Mayweather beats Margarito and Floyd fans insist that means Floyd never ducked him. It was a good business move doe.

    EDIT: In retrospect it wouldn't have mattered since Margarito wouldn't have won, but that doesn't the fact that he did duck that fight.
    Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 08-21-2015, 03:02 PM.

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      #42
      Originally posted by BrometheusBob
      May 2016 Mayweather beats Margarito and Floyd fans insist that means Floyd never ducked him. It was a good business move doe.
      That is exactly what would happen

      They already do it with Cotto.

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        #43
        Originally posted by daggum
        cause the rest was nonsense? i already destroyed your logic that floyd saw him as a joke. if he saw him as a joke why not take the 7 million? instead he took 4 million to fight someone else. if neither guys is a threat to him why not take the 7 million instead of the 4? derp!
        Did he take less money for a lesser opponent to end the contract?

        Are we going to pretend that him and TR didn't have problems and he was going to make more money by leaving?

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          #44
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          That is exactly what would happen

          They already do it with Cotto.
          Defintely wouldn't happen.

          10 years later? Not ranked In the top million?

          I know Floyd fanatics are special but not that special.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Jimmy 23
            If Floyd fought Margarito instead Oscar haters would say that he ducked Oscar.If Floyd fought Williams instead Baldomir they would say he ducked Baldomir.If Floyd fought Cotto instead Hatton they would say he ducked Ricky (winner of Tszyu which one Floyd "ducking" also).Doesn't matter who he fighting, he always ducking.
            This.

            Floyd would have always been "ducking" someone in the minds of some of his (anti)fans. The reality is you can't fight everyone so you can throw the duck label on any boxer if you want thus its ultimately a meaningless term cuz everyone has avoided a lesser option for a better option at many points in their careers. Its more of a business move &/or career maximization move than a duck is my problem with the term used by non-professionals who relate to boxing more like a schoolyard fight than a sport or a business.

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            • boxinghead530
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              #46
              He absolutely didn't duck him. He eagerly took that challenge head on because he wanted Margarito bad. Ohhhh wait shoot my bad, for a second I thought we we're talking about Mosely.

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                #47
                Originally posted by daggum
                cause the rest was nonsense? i already destroyed your logic that floyd saw him as a joke. if he saw him as a joke why not take the 7 million? instead he took 4 million to fight someone else. if neither guys is a threat to him why not take the 7 million instead of the 4? derp!
                From my understanding Mayweather took $1 more to fight Carlos Baldomir post-TR than he would have gotten to fight Antonio Margarito. Mayweather's last fight with TR was the Zab Judah fight. His next fight was Baldomir & then De La Hoya. Margarito, Williams, Tszyu or whoever you wanna throw out there as a avoided fighter would have picked De La Hoya or the option for the same money that could led to De La Hoya over Mayweather or anyone else too at the time. And rightfully so.

                Mainly it sounds like TR was underpaying Mayweather was the biggest issue as far as the immediate issues. If someone else was willing to pay Mayweather $7M to fight Baldomir, who did had a nice unbeaten streak going on although wasn't highly considered, but TR was only willing to pay $7M to fight Margarito, who was seen as one of the biggest threats in boxing at the time TR was clearly lowballing Mayweather. And for the regular job cats this is basically the same difference as if you are working at company A for a $50k a year salary for 50hrs a week, but company B offers to pay you $50k a year salary for working 35hrs a week. Company A needs to come up with more money or you should be at Company B. Its really that simple.

                Most importantly though if Mayweather hadn't taken the option to buy out his contract when the Margarito fight was on the table he'd likely never had gotten a chance to fight De La Hoya cuz Arum had no desire to make that fight thus Mayweather would have potentially never gotten where he's at if he hadn't had left TR. Probably could say the same thing for Cotto & I suspect Pacquiao's career would have been even more exceptional if his move to GBP had happened when it was attempted.

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                  #48
                  floyd ducked/avoided:

                  - margarito
                  - prime pacquiao
                  - prime cotto
                  - williams
                  - dela hoya rematch
                  - prime mosley
                  - prime martinez (was willing to move down to 154)
                  - avoiding khan and GGG (says he's willing to move down to 154)

                  this guy is TBE????? if given the opportunity floyd wouldn't have beaten a prime duran, prime leonard, hearns because he wouldn't have fought them!!!!!!! or he would have waited until they were past it. hahahahahhahahahahahaha what a joke.
                  Last edited by Divine Hammer; 08-21-2015, 09:26 AM.

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                  • Divine Hammer
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by BrometheusBob
                    May 2016 Mayweather beats Margarito and Floyd fans insist that means Floyd never ducked him. It was a good business move doe.

                    EDIT: In retrospect it wouldn't have mattered since Margarito wouldn't have won, but that doesn't the fact that he did not duck that fight.
                    floyd farts would argue that floyd is just as past prime as margarito.

                    "but floyd is older!!!!!!!!!!!!" - floyd farts

                    they don't know one thing about ring age, sustaing wear and tear, being WAR TORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! punks, all of them.

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                    • Jimmy 23
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                      #50
                      Divine Hammer was ducking a God when God was giving a brain.

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