Comments Thread For: Team GGG: Ward Not The A-Side, Can't Dictate Terms

[Najuk]

Fair enough. No one is trying to say GGG has fought better competition. But to call him a ducker is just silly. His team is constantly being asked about Ward and they told HBO they would fight him 2 years ago. It's clearly not going to happen anytime soon, as GGG has better fights at MW

The hypocrisy that bothers me while GGG gets criticized for his competition, Ward gets a pass. I have never seen a champion need more than one tune up fight. If he takes another crap fight next fans need to let him hear about it and stop defending him.

what do you think will Ward ever step up against Kovalev?

[DLX]

DLX.. Do you know the definition of a resume?

Was that rhetorical or would you like to know?

The topic of this thread is about GGG being the A to Ward. Which is more about business than resume. Ward has a cute resume. He beat a good fighter 4 years ago. Boxing is a what have you done for me lately sport. A fighters perception can go from champ to shot in one fight. A vs B is about dollars.

And for the record I want GGG Ward at 168.

[brettWall]

Pathetic how they want to drain ward. Bunch of sissies

Ward won't be drained if only he's got balls to fight Kovalev doe.

[The Collector]

Team GGG:

- "GGG is the most avoided fighter in boxing!!!"
- "We take all comers from 154 to 168"
- "No one from 154 to 168 will last 12 rnds, no one!!!"

Lara: "Hey, I fight you at 160"
Team GGG: "What?, Lara's team never reached to us."
Team Lara: "Yes we did. Lara (himself) calling GGG out in public."
Team GGG: "Ehhh, who the hell is Lara, has no name, no pull". (went and fought Monroe)

B-Hop: "You know what?, I'll fight GGG @ 168."
Team GGG: "Ehhhh, this is a fight we MIGHT consider later on." (dude is 50+ yrs lmao)

Ward: "Team GGG needs to keep my name out of their mouths, if they have no intention of fighting me, when I can get back in a ring."
Team GGG: "Heck, we fight Ward, that's the fight we really want."
Ward: "Ok legal issues resolve, signed w/ RN, will have a fight to take rust of @ 172, then I want GGG at 168."
Team GGG: "We the A side, we the A-side, Ward has no say, we'll do it @ 164, we A-side."

LMBO!!!! hahaha....bunch of clowns!!!

[Eastcoast]

GGG is not ODH and it's highly unlikely he ever reaches that level given his age. A better comparison would be Miguel Cotto.

I didn't mean Golovkin has the same economic power as Dela Hoya, but that he has the same reservations to move up to face Ward as Oscar did Hopkins. He's making size concessions to an elite-level fighter who's not an economic draw. Both Oscar and Golovkin have good options staying where they're at, so there needs to be concessions from the bigger men. Obviously Nard took a third of the money, but he also came down in weight.

This is my whole point-GGG is being spoken about in glowing terms but he isn't confident that he can go into the next weight class and beat the best there. As we shift away from Floyd and Manny, it should be noted they went up and fought the best in Castillo and Barrera respectively, although they didn't go up 8 lbs.

When Floyd moved up to face Castillo, he wasn't giving up speed, just size. Floyd turned down Stevie Johnston 2x at LW, when 'Lil But Bad' was considered just as solid an opponent. (Johnston lost by MD to Castillo then 3 months later was robbed in the rematch by majority draw).

Manny was the B-side to Barrera who was on the slide and not in his prime at that point. Manny had alot to gain and little to lose in that fight. He hadn't yet developed his reputation or drawing power.

Yes, a ward win does give GGG's career some much needed validity. A win over Kov just adds to Ward's career, it doesn't validate it.

I want to see ward/kov, but it seems that fight would occur after ward/ggg. As I said to devel916, if ward/kov happens 1st, it is very unlikely we get a ward/ggg fight and if we do, it will likely not have substance.

I don't know if myself or some experts like Rold & Edwards would agree with that. If Ward retired today, he'll retire as a fighter with a short peak like Michael Curry - very special during a short period of time. That's because the meat of his career was the S6, Kessler & Froch to be precise.

And why can't the Ward/Kovalev happen first? It would make Ward/Golovkin at 168lbs a much much bigger fight. Ward stated he wants Golovkin first and then to move up to LHW 'the right way', because he doesn't want to concede a size advantage to Kovalev.

[DLX]

what do you think will Ward ever step up against Kovalev?

Yes I think so. RocNation will see that it happens. They are going to want a return on their investment. And that is the only PPV fight out there for Ward outside of Golovkin.

[carloscruz10009]

Was that rhetorical or would you like to know?

The topic of this thread is about GGG being the A to Ward. Which is more about business than resume. Ward has a cute resume. He beat a good fighter 4 years ago. Boxing is a what have you done for me lately sport. A fighters perception can go from champ to shot in one fight. A vs B is about dollars.

And for the record I want GGG Ward at 168.

So you buying that re-born Miguel Cotto cause of what he has done lately?

[damian War]

but i thought ggg was from the "old school".. takes on all comers..the boogeyman, everybody scared of him.. come to find out he's just a "diva" like the boxers ggg fanboys hate.

[DLX]

So you buying that re-born Miguel Cotto cause of what he has done lately?

No I'm not buying it, sell sell sell!

I think Canelo ends up wearing him down late like Margarito Cotto 1.

[Najuk]

Team GGG:

- "GGG is the most avoided fighter in boxing!!!"
- "We take all comers from 154 to 168"
- "No one from 154 to 168 will last 12 rnds, no one!!!"

Lara: "Hey, I fight you at 160"
Team GGG: "What?, Lara's team never reached to us."
Team Lara: "Yes we did. Lara (himself) calling GGG out in public."
Team GGG: "Ehhh, who the hell is Lara, has no name, no pull". (went and fought Monroe)

B-Hop: "You know what?, I'll fight GGG @ 168."
Team GGG: "Ehhhh, this is a fight we MIGHT consider later on." (dude is 50+ yrs lmao)

Ward: "Team GGG needs to keep my name out of their mouths, if they have no intention of fighting me, when I can get back in a ring."
Team GGG: "Heck, we fight Ward, that's the fight we really want."
Ward: "Ok legal issues resolve, signed w/ RN, will have a fight to take rust of @ 172, then I want GGG at 168."
Team GGG: "We the A side, we the A-side, Ward has no say, we'll do it @ 164, we A-side."

LMBO!!!! hahaha....bunch of clowns!!!

dont be so mad lol