Comments Thread For: Team GGG: Ward Not The A-Side, Can't Dictate Terms

[Robbie Barrett]

Well if you want to take sh it literal then why when Floyd fights someone like JMM or Guerrero he claims
"They called me out"
Well GGG called him out...crickets
Ward called him out...crickets
Thurman khan porter brook all called him out... Crickets

Why is it ok for Cotto to fight for the lineal MW title at a CW all the time
Why is it ok for Floyd and manny to ask for CW but not GGG
Quit with the hate man! You can't have it both ways

Cotto, Mayweather and Pacquiao all moved up multiple weight divisions fighting naturally bigger fighters, all are much bigger stars than Golovkin. Golovkin has been building his name with the "most feared man from 154-168" and "I'll fight anyone from 154-168" but when it came to it he chickened out and pulled the risk/reward excuse.

[BrometheusBob.]

i even get that it makes more sense for ggg to fight lemieux then the winner of cotto canelo first that makes complete sense and let ward get a couple good wins under his belt i get that but after ggg fights the winner of cotto canelo there is absolutely no reason ggg ward should not happen if both have not lost. by then the fight would be gigantic and be the real fight of our era. i mean the fight has to happen then if ward beats ggg he can start his move to 175 to fight kovalev. i dont know i dont get the hold up from fans perspective tho why ggg and ward fans wouldnt want to see this fight makes no sense to me what so ever it would be an epic showdown. the winner most likely would get the number 1 p4p spot i get that ward needs to win couple fights but if and when ggg fights and beats the winner of cotto canelo and they are still not willing to fight ward thats ridiculous.

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[GMAN SUPREME]

I don't know. Maybe you should go ask Rock Nation seeing as they are more qualified to answer that question than I am. That said, the FACT remains, Ward cashes the bigger paychecks....

roc nation over paid for ward they are going to lose money on that contract.ward doesn't bring in any money.300k on bet remember that

[M Bison]

They make equal sense, but GGG/ward gives GGG the quality opponent he and his fans complain are never willing to fight GGG. The difference is GGG/Kov fans think Kov can beat Ward where they do not think GGG can, so they argue for ward/kov.

GGG's 164lb offer to Ward further illustrates that he doesn't feel confident that he can beat Ward, else he'd fight at 168 same as he wanted to fight Chavez jr. and Froch.

There is no indication Ward can't make 168. All he did was sign his comeback fight for 172. So you are speculating in a way that conveniently supports your position.

GGG fans appear afraid of a GGG/Ward fight because it would be the 1st time GGG fought an elite fighter, one with great skill, speed, and would come in slightly heavier than GGG on fight night, attributes he hasn't had to deal with as a pro.

I get it would be a tough fight, but wouldn't seeing GGG overcome adversity and dealing with these attributes, win or lose, be better than another easy KO, especially if you are a boxing fan and not a casual fan watching boxing?

When has Ward EVER overcame adversity?
He has practically had everything his own way, fought in a super six tournament and never once traveled away, got away with constant clinching and headbutting to beat Kessler (easily could have been DQed) and he knocks back a career high payday to fight Carl Froch in England...

This is a man who has been spoon fed his entire career, don't talk about adversities one comes from a VERY poor country, who had to work likely twice as hard as Ward to get to where he is the other is from Oakland where has had EVERYTHING his own way and now is picking up big pay cheques off Jay Z for fighting flat footed bums in his hometown, impressive right?

[Pigeons]

Cotto, Mayweather and Pacquiao all moved up multiple weight divisions fighting naturally bigger fighters, all are much bigger stars than Golovkin. Golovkin has been building his name with the "most feared man from 154-168" and "I'll fight anyone from 154-168" but when it came to it he chickened out and pulled the risk/reward excuse.

I agree. It's hard to respect Golovkin. He is not a man of his word. That is cowardly and dishonorable.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Hey, @Pacman453323 , remember when Ward said he***39;d go to 160 for Mayweather? http://t.co/GAmref37op Yeah, how ironic in many ways #boxing

— Steve Kim (@steveucnlive) August 20, 2015

this joker has to have an account here... just mirror image of those comments here

Since Steve Kim likes links from this site, why don't you link this to his twitter, javi.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=530891

I'm surprised that clown didn't commit hari-kari after the scorecards were read May 2nd. Hell, dude was probably head cheerleader when Pac was doing his miracle rehab butterfly stokes in the ocean.

[tiliheels]

wats wrong GGG he's been off nearly 2 years making 168 might actually drain him and you still scared...ward would like take 60/40 at 168..i never heard that offer..
weight can be more important that dollars bc u trying to bring a dead man intot he ring...just like your other 33 fights..

[The Big Dunn]

It's like Floyd not being confident he can beat Canelo, or Cotto not confident he beats Geale. Difference being, these are champs lacking confidence vs divisional rivals

not really. Floyd is a WW that proved how good he was by going to 154 for ODH and Cotto. Obviously Canelo was younger and brought more to the table than ODH or Cotto, so he fought him at 152.

Of course Floyd had gone up and fought the best in the heavier division multiple times. GGG has not done this once. So it seems somewhat ignorant to leave this out.

Cotto also is a JMW that went up and won the title against the best in the division. So while he did fight Gaele at a CW, same as Canelo/Floyd, did so in part for competitive reasons, you show incredible bias and ignorance by criticizing them for it.

The fact is GGG was willing to go to 168 for chavez and froch but not ward. Floyd and cotto have gone up w/out CW's-something GGG hasn't done.

[Robbie Barrett]

roc nation over paid for ward they are going lose money on that contract.ward doesn't bring in any money.300k on bet remember that

"on bet" exactly, the channel plays a big part in the amount of viewers. Lemieux did 135k on the same night on fox sports.

[tiliheels]

When has Ward EVER overcame adversity?
He has practically had everything his own way, fought in a super six tournament and never once traveled away, got away with constant clinching and headbutting to beat Kessler (easily could have been DQed) and he knocks back a career high payday to fight Carl Froch in England...

This is a man who has been spoon fed his entire career, don't talk about adversities one comes from a VERY poor country, who had to work likely twice as hard as Ward to get to where he is the other is from Oakland where has had EVERYTHING his own way and now is picking up big pay cheques off Jay Z for fighting flat footed bums in his hometown, impressive right?

ward travel from cal to Ny to fight froch...beat him fair and square...the rematch was not needed..and we know wat froch was going for the robbery in notty...THAT IS DISHONORABLE