Comments Thread For: Golovkin, K2 Firm That Cotto Title Fight Would Be at '160'

[NormC]

When Cotto gets passed Canela, there's no way in hell he takes orders from GGG..He will dictate every single thing if he decides to fight GGG..GGG should know better.

[bigjavi973]

He's obviously had an extremely hard time at middleweight, hasn't he? Cotto turned him down, Felix Sturm (despite GGG being mandatory for over 2 years), Martinez wasn't interested, N'dam pulled out of two purse bids, Quillin wasn't interested prior to the network/haymon feud, Pirog got injured when they were scheduled to fight, hell even Chavez jr & Froch at 168 weren't interested.

So yeah, it's been a long journey just to get title holders like David Lemiuex in the ring.

Most of those guys wanted to get $$$ to fight GGG correct?

Just like GGG is saying now that Ward dont bring $$$

they were saying the same about GGG...

but now its ok to defend GGG and his A-side diva antics cuz its the Ward fight

[ИATAS]

Most of those guys wanted to get $$$ to fight GGG correct?

Just like GGG is saying now that Ward dont bring $$$

they were saying the same about GGG...

but now its ok to defend GGG and his A-side diva antics cuz its the Ward fight :lo:

Not at all since we're talking about the 160 pound division here. There has never been a time when GGG said to a fellow 160 pound fighter "eh, you don't bring enough to the table" no way. Obviously with Ward there has to be some sort of incentive to move up in weight and risk his WBC mandatory position and stuff like that. There is zero obligation for any fighter to move up in weight, just like there was no obligation for Ward to move up to 175 to fight Dawson or Kovalev at 175, or Rigondeaux up to 126 and so on.

It's some bit ch sh it when guys in the exact same division wont even fight each other. Nothing worse than that in boxing and there are no excuses.

[bigjavi973]

Not at all since we're talking about the 160 pound division here. There has never been a time when GGG said to a fellow 160 pound fighter "eh, you don't bring enough to the table" no way. Obviously with Ward there has to be some sort of incentive to move up in weight and risk his WBC mandatory position and stuff like that. There is zero obligation for any fighter to move up in weight, just like there was no obligation for Ward to move up to 175 to fight Dawson or Kovalev at 175, or Rigondeaux up to 126 and so on.

It's some bit ch sh it when guys in the exact same division wont even fight each other. Nothing worse than that in boxing and there are no excuses.

So what ever happened to a Tureano Johnson fight?

[aboutfkntime]

I meant he's a title holder, my point went over your head. A cw within your own division is absurd.

You mean, like Pacquiao did to Cotto and Margarito ?

I actually agree, but good luck convincing Cotto after Pac fcuked him over.

I told all you guys that " manny-weight " was a nasty precedent.

When you guys accepted that rubbish from Pacquiao you demeaned the standards within boxing.

What, everyone really thought that Pac had a mortgage on that timing/weight-manipulation shht?

Once the fans proved that rubbish was acceptable, you were always going to be served another helping. Hard luck now.

[aboutfkntime]

The winner is not going to fight GGG next. It cotto wins he drops the belt and goes 154, If Canelo wins then WBC sort that out for him.

Maybe, or......

..... if Cotto wins, Team Cotto will enter into initial discussions with Team Golovkin to see if a negotiation is possible.

Cotto will demand a catchweight, likely 156, maybe 157 at least.

Team Golovkin will refuse the cw, and no negotiation will take place.

Cotto will then be stripped.

Could be wrong, but wouldnt surprise me at all.

[aboutfkntime]

Nah...

Golovkin needs that money. Cotto would just say them that if they won't accept a cw he will vacate and no fight --> Golovkin accepts it. He will want that Cotto money.

Other question that in my opinion this won't happen because Canelo will beat Cotto.

And this is the second most likely scenario imho.

* Canelo wins
or.....
* Cotto wins, but Golovkin wont accept the catchweight
or.....
* Cotto wins, Golovkin accepts the catchweight

Golovkin/Cotto is highly unlikely imho.

[lefthook2daliva]

I'm a Cotto fan and am still leaving room in my worldview for the possibility that Golovkin is not the GOAT.

Having said that, I don't blame GGG if he tells Cotto to go pound sand if (assuming he gets by Canelo, which is a 50/50 proposition at best in my book) Cotto insists on a CW for the lineal 160lb championship.

If you want the belts, you must allow the opponent to fight at the weight those belts represent.

[Ahmed_Ismail]

All paper champs. Leonard Lalonde lives in infamy. Of course Oscars 6th and PACs 8th titles were paper, no one claims otherwise. But Floyds 5th is the paperest, since it looks amazing on paper. Who'd suspect a 2x, unified, lineal champ with a 3+ year tenure would be too small to face all comers at the weight? Will only fight blown up dudes at full 154.

So beating Dela Hoya and Cotto don't count now cuz he didn't defend the titles he won against Canelo? That doesn't make no sense, I agree he shoukd relinquish the belts, but he's a 3 time World champ at 154 and noone can take that away from him, who won the title 3 tines at a weight class that's 24 lbs above the weight class he started at? And plz stop calling legit 154 lbs title holders "blown up welterweights" cuz blown up fighters don't become the best in their division, a fighter that's been fighting at a weight for 3-4 year or more and holds a title there is not a blown up fighter. If we follow ur logic then Floyd was a blown up welterweight against Dela Hoya, Cotto and Canelo, hell this means he's a blown up 130 pounder!

[aboutfkntime]

So he is telling Ward he will have to fight at 164 and also telling Cotto he must fight at 160.....something is not right with this guy! He has some tools but he has fought nobody! GGG, I like you but you are not in a position to be demanding or imposing your will.

1) I cant believe that is not obvious to the entire world

2) I cant believe that people accept that rubbish, let alone idolise it

Modern day boxing fans are shht imho

#casualslovethepunchersdoe

We all just saw the same sub-standard movie starring Pacquiao.

Extremely well-managed, avoiding top/risky opposition, relying on fandom and hype to sell tickets.

When he said " anyone from 154-168 ", what he really meant was.....

" specific fighters only, and only at the weight best suited to me ".

Golovkin is clearly a manufactured fighter.

I am not bashing him, just pointing out the obvious.

And that is fine, if that is what you're into.

I much prefer the old-school style of fighter who wants to be the best.