Comments Thread For: Lemieux: Cotto’s Scared Of 160, Not Real Middleweight

[icha]

I don't think Trout had Cotto looking that bad.. but I do agree that Cotto might not be able to hold up against Canelo.. whats your prediction for Cotto Canelo...

i think is going to be a late stoppage, this based on cotto being in too many wars, it should be fun while it lasts, and i see cotto trying to box canelo on the early rounds, but it will be hard to do that for more than 8 rounds plus i also believe that cotto will end up exchanging with canelo at some point due to his pride...

[carloscruz10009]

i think is going to be a late stoppage, this based on cotto being in too many wars, it should be fun while it lasts, and i see cotto trying to box canelo on the early rounds, but it will be hard to do that for more than 8 rounds plus i also believe that cotto will end up exchanging with canelo at some point due to his pride...

Once Cotto gets hit with something he don't like.. hes going to start running.. I think he has to fight the perfect fight to beat Canelo, cause I don't think Canelo fights full rounds anyways... but I don't know... Cotto might have one last great fight in him... hes also not a mover,boxer like Floyd or even Lara... or even Trout for that matter who loss a close decision to Canelo as well.

[creekrat77]

I hate catchweights as well.. but Pacquiao a bad example, Pac came up from "Natural Featherweight" Cotto started his career at "Natural Junior Welterweight" they both have outgrown their "Natural" Weights...... same nonsense different dudes.. and I love cotto. He needs to go back to 154

Pac is a good example because he barely made it to 147 back then on fight night. He could still make 130 but his team opted to move up. Cotto was fighting in between 147 and 154, and previously fought at 140. 145 was a compromise. Its completely debatable that Pac was at a distinct advantage with that weight clause.
With Cotto though, he was walking around at close to 170 years ago and has been coming over 160 on fight night for years too. He is at a level playing field by fighting at 160. For some reason or another he doesn't like it and feels he needs a catch weight to stay on top. I mean it would be like if Khan drained himself to 142 for a welterweight fight and made for instance Maidana come to 144, all because he is a "small" welter. Even though Khan himself weighs around 156 on fight night

[lefthook2daliva]

I'm not even sure he can handle the tops guys at 154, never mind 160.

Totally. Lara, Canelo, and Trout would probably all beat Lemieux. Hell, Kirkland could prolly whip his ass....

[Beater_of_ass]

How can anyone defend this catchweight garbage from Cotto. At least with Manny he was a natural featherweight willing to come up to 147. And the 145 catch weight with Cotto was a meeting halfway agreement because 140 was too low for cotto (hadn't made that weight for years) and 147 was too high for Pac because he barely rehydrated to that. But with Cotto in regards to 160....he is a natural middleweight. He rehydrates comfortabely almost to 170! Just because he can dry himself out to 153 doesn't mean he is at SUCH a disadvantage! H*ll GGG can make 154, it doesnt mean he is a naturally smaller man. Cotto is a averagely sized middleweight and he needs to stop acting like he is Floyd fighting Canelo at a 24lb weight defecit on fight night or Pac against Margs with a 18lb defecit

Most of this post is garbage but... Cotto weighed in at 161 against Martinez, where are you getting 170? A guy who made 140 is a SMW now?

[creekrat77]

Most of this post is garbage but... Cotto weighed in at 161 against Martinez, where are you getting 170? A guy who made 140 is a SMW now?

Yea for that particular fight he did. And no just because you rehydrate to smw doesn't mean you are a natural smw. Canelo rehydrates up to 174, that doesn't really mean he is a lhw or smw.
And how is my post garbage???????

[Bardock]

I don't think Trout had Cotto looking that bad.. but I do agree that Cotto might not be able to hold up against Canelo.. whats your prediction for Cotto Canelo...

Trout disagrees.

[Beater_of_ass]

Yea for that particular fight he did. And no just because you rehydrate to smw doesn't mean you are a natural smw. Canelo rehydrates up to 174, that doesn't really mean he is a lhw or smw.
And how is my post garbage???????

Show me a screenshot and I'll believe your post isn't garbage. I just think it's strange (really just bad trolling or pure ******ity) that in, even to this day, Cotto biggest weight for any fight... he came in 1 pound over the MW limit. He's got big balls but they aren't 7 pounds a piece.

[aboutfkntime]

This is my take on catchweights. I have no issues with it when used to even the playing field between 2 figthers who are 1 weight class apart. For example...When Pac faced Margarito. Margarito spent the majority of his career at WW therefore a catchweight was justified and did not drain or hurt Margarito to come down a few lbs. Come fight night Pac weighed 148lbs while Margarito weighed 165lbs. So who had the advantage??

Cotto/Canelo is another fight where I have no issue with the cw. Neither fighter is a full fledged MW therefore there's no sacrifice to either fighter by having to make a specified cw. The fight is being held at 155 which falls within MW territory. Just because the fighters arent weighing in at the full limit does not mean it isnt a MW fight. MW is from 154.01 - 160.

Where I do have a problem is when its being used to purposely gain an advantage on an opponent and even then there's some grey area because if the opponent feels uncomfortable making a specified weight, then dont take the fight only to cry about it after.

Only casual fans and silly pacstains support catchweights.

There are only two reasons a fighter would require a catchweight.....

1) he cannot compete with his opponent because of size disadvantage

2) he is trying to disadvantage his opponent to gain an edge

The answer is simple for both reasons..... fcuk off back to your own division and fight someone meaningful.

Catchweights are completely unnecessary, so your willingness to drop your standards is a little disappointing.

[PR ESQ.]

Scared..doubtful. Agree but Cotto leveraging his star power a la Money. Dont agree with this CW BS. He should be fighting GGG instead. Legitimacy of MW title at stake imo.
Fighting and losing to GGG would've done more to add to his legacy whereas canelo serves him nothin more than a decent payday win or lose...