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  • youbeight
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    #11
    Originally posted by bigjavi973
    I know all that. (collecting sanctioning fees imo is the only reason they added extra belts)... what am saying is when have they actually started to count the WBA "regular" belt as legit title defenses. imo its more like the WBC interim belt status type of thing.
    good point, ppl don't even consider thurman, lara or jacobs the real wba champs in their respective divisions, soooo can we really count GGG's defenses of the "regular" title if he wasn't a true champ till the "super" title

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #12
      Originally posted by Najuk
      in wiki he is WBA super champion and IBO champion.And number 4 p4p by The Ring.Funny thing he is ranked higher than Cotto in p4p ratings
      Why would anybody take " P4P " seriously ?

      P4P is even less credible than the 4 asshat ABC organisations.

      Golovkin ranking higher than Cotto P4P proves that.

      Golovkin has done nothing to indicate that he is a P4P fighter.....
      ..... and yet Cotto, is the very epitome of a P4P fighter.

      So, Golovkin is ranked higher P4P than Cotto, despite.....
      * having done nothing to prove he is a P4P fighter
      * despite Cotto being currently ranked higher than him at middleweight
      * despite cotto being a much more accomplished vet and P4P fighter

      What a fkn ********.

      Why folks rate these obvious asshat decisions will continue to defy logic.

      No wonder some people argue about such mindless shht on this site.

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      • aboutfkntime
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        #13
        Originally posted by texasboi15
        The best middleweight in the world is none other than Floyd Joy Mayweather.

        He's the best in the world 147-160 lbs.
        Nah, he has two divisions on lock, he is the best fighter from 147-154.

        Not saying that he couldnt beat MW's, especially with a catchweight...... but he clearly does not belong in any conversation at 160..... especially considering the fact that he has never fought above 154.

        But Mayweather beats Golovkin at 154, no question about that imho.

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          #14
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          Nah, he has two divisions on lock, he is the best fighter from 147-154.

          Not saying that he couldnt beat MW's, especially with a catchweight...... but he clearly does not belong in any conversation at 160..... especially considering the fact that he has never fought above 154.

          But Mayweather beats Golovkin at 154, no question about that imho.
          Yeah many flo mos agree, but then throw a fit when you suggest they settle it in the ring at 154. You know, this lineal champ is too small and old, not fair.

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            #15
            Originally posted by ryedes
            good point, ppl don't even consider thurman, lara or jacobs the real wba champs in their respective divisions, soooo can we really count GGG's defenses of the "regular" title if he wasn't a true champ till the "super" title
            That's exactly what I'm saying! Bhop had LEGIT title defenses.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Joe Beamish
              He's the best in the world 140-154, more like.
              nope, just 147

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                #17
                14 title defenses. Laughable.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by bigjavi973
                  14 title defenses. Laughable.
                  Not really, given that the "regular" title opened up when Sturm paid the WBA 500k to promote him to "super" champ, so he wouldn't have to defend against mando GGG. He pretty much forfeited

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by HeroBando
                    Yeah many flo mos agree, but then throw a fit when you suggest they settle it in the ring at 154. You know, this lineal champ is too small and old, not fair.
                    Well, I am a Mayweather fan, and I listed my 4 preferred opponents as.....

                    * Lara - the most difficult, and very close to the most deserving
                    * Cotto - very close to the most deserving, and likely the best fight
                    * Khan - undeserving, but the best welter, and I would like nothing more than to see him get dished up by Mayweather
                    * Golovkin - undeserving, the easiest opponent (style-wise, and he would be shot at 154), and I would like nothing more than to see him get dished up by Mayweather

                    The reason why I only listed Golovkin at #4 is because.....
                    1) he is not the most challenging opponent for Mayweather
                    2) he has not earned that payday
                    3) I would love to watch Mayweather dish him up at 154

                    edit: and the only reason Golovkin made #4 is because the current crop of welters are underwhelming to say the least.
                    Last edited by aboutfkntime; 08-18-2015, 08:56 PM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by bigjavi973
                      I understand that he's currently the WBA "super" champion. Which he has 4 defenses of that said belt, not 14.

                      and the IBO isn't a officially recognized sanctioning body such as WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO.
                      Originally posted by bigjavi973
                      I know all that. (collecting sanctioning fees imo is the only reason they added extra belts)... what am saying is when have they actually started to count the WBA "regular" belt as legit title defenses. imo its more like the WBC interim belt status type of thing.
                      Originally posted by ryedes
                      good point, ppl don't even consider thurman, lara or jacobs the real wba champs in their respective divisions, soooo can we really count GGG's defenses of the "regular" title if he wasn't a true champ till the "super" title
                      Originally posted by bigjavi973
                      14 title defenses. Laughable.
                      I'm as confused as you guys when it comes to the 14 "title defenses" here.

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