September 16. Canelo's most dominating performance?

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  • icha
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    #51
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
    How does Delvin exactly "earn" a shot against a guy who had lost 2 times a row? Did you forget that's how that fight ended up happening, what was there to earn?

    Secondly, who gives a ****. Your boy straight up Salka'd someone and you're giving him credit because it was earned? WTF, that's Floyd picking Berto talk. Just say it was a cherry pick that was made to make Canelo look good, that's all it was and that's okay. But it was a joke of a fight.
    i did not praise canelo for that fight, in fact i think the fight should have never happened, but he did what he was supposed to do, it wasnt his fault(unless you believe in the curse) that other fights didnt get made, i believe he was looking to fight at the right opposition for his age, and then after that fight he stepped up his competition...

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      #52
      Originally posted by aldo5408
      Trout beat canelo too what's your point?
      And your making a big deal about the odds it has to do with who the most popular fighter is. Look at floyd vs Canelo
      floyd was -300 then went down to -150 cause everyone was betting on canelo
      lol, trout admitted defeat, but some haters cant...

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      • Bardock
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        #53
        Originally posted by icha
        well, neither him or his team turned down a lara fight...
        monroe bigger than lara doe...
        "We wanted to fight the cuban style doe, without actually fighting a cuban"

        "We think Monroe is half cuban or something"- Tom Loeffler

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          #54
          Originally posted by icha
          lol, trout admitted defeat, but some haters cant...
          Bro did you rewatch the fight with the sound off?

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            #55
            Originally posted by aldo5408
            Bro did you rewatch the fight with the sound off?
            i watched the fight live at the alamo, no commentators or open scoring, trout landed nothing but pity jabs and made canelo look like whitaker at times...
            and i heard trout praise canelo and said he was the faster , stronger and better boxer that night, he said canelos speed and defense surprised them..

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              #56
              Originally posted by icha
              i watched the fight live at the alamo, no commentators or open scoring, trout landed nothing but pity jabs and made canelo look like whitaker at times...
              and i heard trout praise canelo and said he was the faster , stronger and better boxer that night, he said canelos speed and defense surprised them..

              I agree with you, and I don't know how anybody could have Trout winning that fight. All he threw were uncommitted pitty patty slaps with little accuracy. Canelo landed all the meaningful punches, showed good defense, was the ring general and dropped Trout.

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                #57
                Originally posted by _original_
                I agree with you, and I don't know how anybody could have Trout winning that fight. All he threw were uncommitted pitty patty slaps with little accuracy. Canelo landed all the meaningful punches, showed good defense, was the ring general and dropped Trout.
                Other notable scores (the split is almost 50/50)...

                James Foley (Bad Left Hook): 115-112 Alvarez

                Patrick Connor (Queensbury Rules): 117-110 Trout

                Kory Kitchen (Bad Left Hook): 115-112 Alvarez

                Cliff Rold (Boxing Scene): 116-111 Trout

                Bart Barry (15 Rounds): 115-114 Alvarez

                Lee Wylie (The Sweet Science): 115-112 Trout

                Jake Donovan (Boxing Scene): 115-112 Alvarez

                Brian Campbell (ESPN): 115-112 Trout

                Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing) 115-112 Alvarez

                Mark Ortega (******): 114-113 Trout

                John Whisler (San Antonio Express-News): 117-110 Alvarez

                Lem Satterfield (******): 114-113 Trout

                Michael Rosenthal (******): 114-113 Alvarez

                Tom Gray (Seconds Out): 114-113 Trout

                Bob Velin (USA Today): 114-113 Alvarez

                Tim Dahlberg (Associated Press): 114-113 Alvarez

                Steve Zemach (Queensbury Rules): 114-113 Trout

                Alex McClintock (Queensbury Rules): 115-112 Alvarez

                Ryan Maquinana (Boxing Scene): 114-113 Trout

                Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-113 Alvarez

                Steve Lillis (BoxNation): 115-114 Trout

                Ryan Burton (Boxing Scene): 115-112 Alvarez

                Raymond Markarian (The Sweet Science): 115-112 Trout

                Paul Magno (Boxing Tribune): 114-113 Alvarez

                Stephen Smith (British fighter): 115-114 Trout

                Ishe Smith (American fighter): 116-111 Alvarez

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by aldo5408
                  Other notable scores (the split is almost 50/50)...

                  James Foley (Bad Left Hook): 115-112 Alvarez

                  Patrick Connor (Queensbury Rules): 117-110 Trout

                  Kory Kitchen (Bad Left Hook): 115-112 Alvarez

                  Cliff Rold (Boxing Scene): 116-111 Trout

                  Bart Barry (15 Rounds): 115-114 Alvarez

                  Lee Wylie (The Sweet Science): 115-112 Trout

                  Jake Donovan (Boxing Scene): 115-112 Alvarez

                  Brian Campbell (ESPN): 115-112 Trout

                  Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing) 115-112 Alvarez

                  Mark Ortega (******): 114-113 Trout

                  John Whisler (San Antonio Express-News): 117-110 Alvarez

                  Lem Satterfield (******): 114-113 Trout

                  Michael Rosenthal (******): 114-113 Alvarez

                  Tom Gray (Seconds Out): 114-113 Trout

                  Bob Velin (USA Today): 114-113 Alvarez

                  Tim Dahlberg (Associated Press): 114-113 Alvarez

                  Steve Zemach (Queensbury Rules): 114-113 Trout

                  Alex McClintock (Queensbury Rules): 115-112 Alvarez

                  Ryan Maquinana (Boxing Scene): 114-113 Trout

                  Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-113 Alvarez

                  Steve Lillis (BoxNation): 115-114 Trout

                  Ryan Burton (Boxing Scene): 115-112 Alvarez

                  Raymond Markarian (The Sweet Science): 115-112 Trout

                  Paul Magno (Boxing Tribune): 114-113 Alvarez

                  Stephen Smith (British fighter): 115-114 Trout

                  Ishe Smith (American fighter): 116-111 Alvarez

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                  that only means it was a close fight, i can understand that you scored the fight for trout, but that doesnt mean trout won like you said before...

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by icha
                    that only means it was a close fight, i can understand that you scored the fight for trout, but that doesnt mean trout won like you said before...
                    That's the thing with Canelo... every B class fighter he has faced has been tooth and nail, extremely close. He stepped up to A class once and schooled.
                    Cotto's clearly beaten B sides and while he lost some to A guys, he was never outclassed and actually beat 2 A class fighters. It's obvious who the better fighter is and who is going to win.

                    There are a lot of people who hear "he is a monster" and actually believe, but for people like myself I need to see the monster and the only time it was shown was a blown up JWW and Kirkland... The fact that the JWW lasted longer is all you need to know about the quality of Kirkland. Canelo is still more hype that substance. As Floyd and Douglas showed, that's not how you win fights.
                    Last edited by Beater_of_ass; 08-17-2015, 12:45 PM.

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                    • icha
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                      That's the thing with Canelo... every B class fighter he has faced has been tooth and nail, extremely close. He stepped up to A class once and schooled.
                      Cotto's clearly beaten B sides and while he lost some to A guys, he was never outclassed and actually beat 2 A class fighters. It's obvious who the better fighter is and who is going to win.

                      There are a lot of people who hear "he is a monster" and actually believe, but for people like myself I need to see the monster and the only time it was shown was a blown up JWW and Kirkland... The fact that the JWW lasted longer is all you need to know about the quality of Kirkland. Canelo is still more hype that substance. As Floyd and Douglas showed, that's not how you win fights.
                      again, lets pretend that the trout fight never happened...

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