September 16. Canelo's most dominating performance?

[Beater_of_ass]

again, lets pretend that the trout fight never happened...

No, it did happen, but basing his career off of that one fight is all people seem to do. It's like using the one time Canelo was hurt and then saying he has a ****ty chin. When people say Cotto sucks because of that one fight I call them idiots. When people say Canelo loses to Cotto/has no chin because of his fight with Cotto's brother, I call them idiots.

I don't judge a guy based off one fight or one shot, but it's Canelo's fault his entire resume is C class and under except for 3 guys. Mayweather, Trout, Lara and he arguably lost all 3 fights. So, take the Trout fight and base Cotto's career off of that if you want, just know I don't do that to Canelo because, contrary to most idiots, I actually look at each fight pretty unbiased.

[Bardock]

That's the thing with Canelo... every B class fighter he has faced has been tooth and nail, extremely close. He stepped up to A class once and schooled.
Cotto's clearly beaten B sides and while he lost some to A guys, he was never outclassed and actually beat 2 A class fighters. It's obvious who the better fighter is and who is going to win.

There are a lot of people who hear "he is a monster" and actually believe, but for people like myself I need to see the monster and the only time it was shown was a blown up JWW and Kirkland... The fact that the JWW lasted longer is all you need to know about the quality of Kirkland. Canelo is still more hype that substance. As Floyd and Douglas showed, that's not how you win fights.

Austin Trout 10-2 UD I know you don't consider Trout and A-level fighter but he whipped Cotto bad. I know, I know "Cotto didn't train for the Trout fight, he wasn't with Roach, etc, etc." But the point still stands, he was outclassed by a B-level fighter and has fought 2 c-class fighters and a cripple since then.

[icha]

No, it did happen, but basing his career off of that one fight is all people seem to do. It's like using the one time Canelo was hurt and then saying he has a ****ty chin. When people say Cotto sucks because of that one fight I call them idiots. When people say Canelo loses to Cotto/has no chin because of his fight with Cotto's brother, I call them idiots.

I don't judge a guy based off one fight or one shot, but it's Canelo's fault his entire resume is C class and under except for 3 guys. Mayweather, Trout, Lara and he arguably lost all 3 fights. So, take the Trout fight and base Cotto's career off of that if you want, just know I don't do that to Canelo because, contrary to most idiots, I actually look at each fight pretty unbiased.

yeah, right...
i dont judge cotto for that fight only, i said many times before cotto is a HOF, but you criticize canelo for winning a close fight with trout at such a very young age, and im not supposed to bring cotto-trout to the table??

[torosboxing75]

LMAO!!! This is definitely a troll thread.

[Beater_of_ass]

yeah, right...
i dont judge cotto for that fight only, i said many times before cotto is a HOF, but you criticize canelo for winning a close fight with trout at such a very young age, and im not supposed to bring cotto-trout to the table??

Again, I'm criticizing their resumes from B-level and upwards.

Canelo has 3 names and 3 bad performances.

Cotto B level - Paulie, Judah, Quintanta, Geale, Margarito, Clottey,

Cotto A level - Mosley, Manny, Mayweather, Sergio

Cotto has lost to guys, I never said he didn't. But he has clean wins which is something Canelo has none of. Stop bringing up Canelo's age, it means NOTHING when you have 45 pro fights. And again, Trout was just 1 of 3 "tough fights." The only thing in common in all three of those fights was Canelo, not the opponent.

[soul_survivor]

You wana talk about Canelo's best performance(s) and you don't mention Kirkland or Lara or Mosley? Is this a troll thread?

[icha]

Again, I'm criticizing their resumes from B-level and upwards.

Canelo has 3 names and 3 bad performances.

Cotto B level - Paulie, Judah, Quintanta, Geale, Margarito, Clottey,

Cotto A level - Mosley, Manny, Mayweather, Sergio

Cotto has lost to guys, I never said he didn't. But he has clean wins which is something Canelo has none of. Stop bringing up Canelo's age, it means NOTHING when you have 45 pro fights. And again, Trout was just 1 of 3 "tough fights." The only thing in common in all three of those fights was Canelo, not the opponent.

so you excluded Trout from cottos list cuz he is not even a B level fighter?
honest question by the way...

[Beater_of_ass]

so you excluded Trout from cottos list cuz he is not even a B level fighter?
honest question by the way...

No, I had just covered the Trout fight two or three times, it needed to be said yet again? This is exactly what I mean by being obsessed over one win... It was Cotto's worst loss and Canelo's best win, but it means nearly nothing to Cotto because, as stated, he has a much better body of work.

Again, back to my point that because Canelo has had it soft, his few quality wins are far overblown. Just like the loss is far overblown, you don't have to be a stan to see Cotto is a different fighter than he was against Trout. Canelo has been the same since Lopez, there is no change.

There is no bias in that. Like Hopkins says about Canelo, he is on Canelo's side but he is keeping it real. I do the same thing with Cotto. I've been wrong 3 times out of his 40+ fights. I thought he'd beat Margarito in the first fight, it really should be a no contest.

When he fought Manny I really thought it was 50/50. But I admitted I wanted Cotto to win and made a bias pick, so I rode with him as I wasn't sold on Manny's chin at 147 at the time. I said Cotto would lose to Floyd though give him his toughest fight and got the Trout fight wrong.

The first fight with Marg could be considered a mulligan for various reasons. My record regarding Cotto fights is pretty solid because I do a good job of putting my emotions aside because I live in Vegas and bet on sports. I know emotions **** things up so believe it or not, when making a pick I don't troll and try keep things neutral.

[aldo5408]

You wana talk about Canelo's best performance(s) and you don't mention Kirkland or Lara or Mosley? Is this a troll thread?

Lol wtf mosley? And he lost to Lara idiot

[aldo5408]

Canelo should fight mosley son