What is Al Haymons end game? Predictions..

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  • kafkod
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    #21
    Originally posted by Weebler I
    Part of the myth, seen to many match-ups go wrong for him to buy into that, he's as fallible as the next guy. He just doesn't talk to the cameras which makes him seem like something more.
    He's made some bad mistakes.

    He could have had Stevenson vs Hopkins on PBC, but he tried to be too clever, stalling BHop in the hope of getting another of his fighters lined up as mando for the winner, till BHop's deadline to face his IBF mando ran out and he fought Kovalev instead of Stevenson.

    The Quillin fiasco was another big misjudgment by Haymon. He thought that Quillin would be good enough to easily win back the WBO title Uncle Al paid him to vacate. All he needed to do was line him up with a shot at Andy Lee and Quillin's "talent" would do the rest.

    Haymon doesn't come from a boxing background. He may be a smart business man. But, IMO, he doesn't know a talented fighter from a hole in the ground. How else can you explain his deluded faith in Deontay Wilder as the saviour of the heavyweight division?

    That's another bad eorror of judgement by Haymon.

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    • Eastcoast
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      #22
      His immediate goal is to lock up and over pay enough fighters to prevent other promoters from making fights and to destroy the tv and ticket markets in the US so that no one else can make any money in this sport leaving him the sole inheritor.

      He could've made a real difference with the money he acquired by focusing on quality fights based on sound business principles, but he chose to go this route.

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      • Divine Hammer
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        #23
        it's to create a monopoly. if he gets his hands on all the top fighters in the sport then it's game over. boxing will be EVEN WORSE. just look at how poor PBC is being operated. boring uninteresting commentary, poor production quality, majority mismatches, WWE knock-off etc. boxing will completely enter loser status if haymon has his way.

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          #24
          I think & hope Haymon is attempting some NFL of boxing type elite boxing league. The sport is ripe for such a league & its likely the only way that big fights can become a mainstay in the sport due to all the lil promoter like "warlords" the sport has who are looking out for their own interest.

          There are far too many people in power in boxing & there is some much needed weeding that needs to happen to get boxing to a better place. Whoever does that, & someone will sooner or later, is gonna make a ***** ton of money.

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            #25
            I don't think boxing will ever be a consistent primetime network TV event.

            But I do expect that he will land deals with ESPN, FS1, etc. at some point.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              I think & hope Haymon is attempting some NFL of boxing type elite boxing league. The sport is ripe for such a league & its likely the only way that big fights can become a mainstay in the sport due to all the lil promoter like "warlords" the sport has who are looking out for their own interest.

              There are far too many people in power in boxing & there is some much needed weeding that needs to happen to get boxing to a better place. Whoever does that, & someone will sooner or later, is gonna make a ***** ton of money.
              more like XFL. i assume u haven't seen a PBC show because u wouldn't be supporting devil worshiper haymon otherwise.

              and having more people in power in boxing is GOOD. it encourages competition! it encourages better production quality! what will happen if ONE ENTITY controls everything??????? it means they can DO WHAT THEY WANT!!!! sure it might be acceptable in the uneducated person's view because guess what there is nothing else so they try and deal with it. but if you want a free market which encourages competition which ultimately encourages evolution IMPROVEEEEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! then you will reject haymon one world government illuminati devil worshiper scum of the earth's plans to destroy this sport.

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                #27
                Originally posted by PulpFriction
                2016 should be an indicator of how successful PBC will be. Haymon needs to step his matchmaking up.
                I guess to some degree you're right. I mean they need to keep improving, so every day, month & year needs to show some indicators of moving in the right direction. Having said that I think this is a much longer game plan then people wanna think about or that they realize. I think its gonna be a solid 3-4 year plan (2018-2019) to get to the point of parlaying this into a national TV deal like other sports have. Unless TR or GBP win lawsuits I think the anti-PBC cats got years of *****ing & doomdaying ahead of them.

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                • kafkod
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Barcham
                  Haymon's end game is to put as much money in his own bank account in the way of his commission from each of his fighters for as long as the investor money holds out. Once the money is gone, he will probably go crawling back to Showtime in the hope they will be interested in going back to whatever their old deal was.
                  Originally posted by Hougigo
                  IMO, he gets a percentage of the purses regardless and has a huge piggy bank. His end game, again in my opinion, is get his cut.... get his people a good cut.... then if this boxing thing works out, continue getting himself a good cut and the people a good cut...

                  If it fails make off, if it doesn't keep getting cash
                  Originally posted by Eastcoast
                  His immediate goal is to lock up and over pay enough fighters to prevent other promoters from making fights and to destroy the tv and ticket markets in the US so that no one else can make any money in this sport leaving him the sole inheritor.

                  He could've made a real difference with the money he acquired by focusing on quality fights based on sound business principles, but he chose to go this route.
                  If Haymon takes a percentage of his fighters purses as commision, and he pays those purses himself out of his invenstors money, then that alone would give him a reason to overpay, not just his fighters, but himself.

                  Surely Waddell and Reed would not be ****** enough to give someone a legal licence to rip them off, which is what an arrangement like that would amount to?

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                    #29
                    Start a network bidding war for exclusive rights to PBC

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                      I think & hope Haymon is attempting some NFL of boxing type elite boxing league. The sport is ripe for such a league & its likely the only way that big fights can become a mainstay in the sport due to all the lil promoter like "warlords" the sport has who are looking out for their own interest.

                      There are far too many people in power in boxing & there is some much needed weeding that needs to happen to get boxing to a better place. Whoever does that, & someone will sooner or later, is gonna make a ***** ton of money.
                      I don't even think a monopoly is necessary. Just make in house fights and when co-promotion events mane sense, get them done.

                      I can live without GGG vs Quillin or Jacobs.

                      The only fight we're really not getting that I absolutely want to see is Stevenson vs Kovalev.

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