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  • boxingfan1986
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    #81
    Khan said its not about the money, then he said he wants the fight to grow so it will make more money..

    I agree with him in that Brook's resume is not the same as his BUT since when do fighters have to have the same resume to get in the ring with each other? Its Floyd who started this and all these young wannabe welters are following his lead like little lapdogs.

    IMO Brook is closer to Khan than Khan is to Floyd. Khan needs to give up chasing Floyd. They clearly dont like Khan. For whatever reason, they dont want to give him a payday or a shot at Floyd. Khan needs to realise this. They're trolling Khan and have gone as far as picking Berto just to avoid giving Khan a payday and exposure, and if thats what they wana do then so be it. Khan needs to make his own name in the division. He had balls before he joined Al Haymon. Find them again and start fighting whoever. I dont like the guy but he needs to quit. He's embarassed himself so much. His die hard fans are the worst. I dont even wana think about what they what they write on twitter. Bigging up Khan to be some kind of All Time Great
    Last edited by boxingfan1986; 08-08-2015, 02:30 PM.

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    • deathofaclown
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      #82
      Khan is wrong here.

      The only way you're going to do huge numbers in the UK, selling out Wembley and PPV is by getting the casuals and non-followers of boxing interested through the media hype. These people don't know their Rod Salka's from their Keith Thurman's. It isn't going to make any difference who Brook beats unless it was like someone Mayweather or Pacquiao.

      Other than that, the people who dont follow the sport don't have a clue who the likes of Thurman or Chaves are or any other top welterweight outside of the big stars, so even if Brook fought and beat someone like Thurman, it wont matter in the context of what Khan is saying.

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      • Sugar Adam Ali
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        #83
        Originally posted by Thutch2412
        No offense but you really think that if Brook had fought at least 1 legit opponent this year it would have raised his profile considerably? I know people who "watch" boxing who haven't even seen Brook fight before. His name holds absolutely no weight in the US. Probably never will unless he unseats Khan next year, but it'd have to be at Wembley, bigger stage for them, more press overseas. It wouldn't be half as big here, what Americans care about their domestic rivalry in the UK?

        It would be big among people who are familiar with Brook, but most American's aren't, even after his win against Porter, because Porter isn't that big in the states either.
        yes i do...... Obviously brook/khan is a huge domestic fight... But globally brooks is about as well known as junior witter was a decade ago..

        If i was handling brook, i would have made huge offers to rios, etc

        have brook beat rios, soto-karass, even diego chavez... Brook needed to stay busy after the porter win... the porter win established him as a major player but to really make this a super fight with khan globally..

        Beating jo jo dan, etc just doesn't raise his profile too much and i don't want brook to turn into the next junior witter..

        Brook needed to be like golovkin and stay busy and fight decent name guys and raise your profile until khan happens next spring/summer in a stadium

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        • brettWall
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          #84
          Brook is one of those opportunistic fighters who can't make it on their own. They're like leeches who suck blood out of someone else's efforts. They're boring to watch, no charisma, rarely take major risks. Then they cry and whine why they have few fans.

          If this guy decides to ignore Khan and line up fighters like Thurman, Bradley, even Rios, Alexander, Peterson, etc. he'd be a superstar. He'd be ten times A-side in a Khan fight. But no, he'd rather fight No no Dans and nobodies.

          I'm not even a Khan fan and I can distinguish who the bigger joke is.

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          • sicko
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            #85
            His reasons for not fighting Brook changes every time he is asked about Brook

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            • Sugar Adam Ali
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              #86
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Haye had never fought in America on a high profile show or on HBO so how is that even a relevant example?

              It doesn't really matter how big it is in America. The fight will always be staged in the UK and almost all of the revenue will come from the UK in terms of tickets & PPV.

              America is pretty much irrelevant to this fight. Now if you were talking Brook-Thurman or Brook-Bradley or something then yes Brook would need to raise his profile in America but you're talking about 2 Brits fighting in Britain.
              Haye had a series of high profile fights, and some were broadcast in america.. I watched him destroy Enzo, and even though a lot of his fights were in UK and not america, Haye fought well known names like valuev, ruiz, barrett, which grew his american following even though he wasn't fighting in the US or shown regularly..

              Brook needed to do the same and fight and beat guys that the american public is familiar with... Jo jo Dan, etc just isn't going to raise your profile abroad... Guys like soto karass, rios, etc would have

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              • thack
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                #87
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                lmao,,,, you are an idiot....


                Im not making any excuses for khan.... Its common sense that if brook fought rios or someone like that instead of jo jo dan, his profile would be much higher..


                Regardless, i want to see the fight next spring in a huge stadium... But to think it wouldn't be bigger if brook had more name recognition in america is ******ed...

                Like i said before, its on that haye/chisora level... Brook gets a big win or 2 before next spring, it becomes as huge as wlad/haye... To think otherwise is completely ******
                Listen idiot, If Khan or Brook get beat the £10m pot is no more and I think Brook is a pretty safe bet to continue his unbeaten run against the likes of Chaves it's just Khan where the worry is as I'm sure the first top welterweight he fights he will again take a hammering and the fight goes from Wembley to the M.E.N. with a much smaller pot for both .Nobody gives a flying f.uck about what you want.....have some fun with Wilder while it lasts.

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                • Dirk Diggler UK
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                  Haye had a series of high profile fights, and some were broadcast in america.. I watched him destroy Enzo, and even though a lot of his fights were in UK and not america, Haye fought well known names like valuev, ruiz, barrett, which grew his american following even though he wasn't fighting in the US or shown regularly..

                  Brook needed to do the same and fight and beat guys that the american public is familiar with... Jo jo Dan, etc just isn't going to raise your profile abroad... Guys like soto karass, rios, etc would have
                  But if they weren't in America or shown in the US, what does it matter? You aren't making a very good point. Brook's fight against Porter was on Showtime on American time - that's more than what Haye ever did. Really poor example.

                  And that still doesn't explain why Brook would need to raise his profile abroad when virtually all the money for the fight comes from the UK?

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                  • Sugar Adam Ali
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by thack
                    Listen idiot, If Khan or Brook get beat the £10m pot is no more and I think Brook is a pretty safe bet to continue his unbeaten run against the likes of Chaves it's just Khan where the worry is as I'm sure the first top welterweight he fights he will again take a hammering and the fight goes from Wembley to the M.E.N. with a much smaller pot for both .Nobody gives a flying f.uck about what you want.....have some fun with Wilder while it lasts.
                    lmao.... The butthurt is overwhelming in your post...

                    I actually agree that khan is the one that is most likely to take an L before they fight..

                    My whole point in response to the thread is that if brook fought more well known names, it would make the fight even bigger globally.. I don't see how that can't be understood

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                    • soul_survivor
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Salim_Shady
                      That's the problem with journalism, it's all about context. Even Eddie Hearn agreed so now they're fighting a solid name in Chaves and probably one more big fight before the Wembley clash.
                      I don't understand why people don't get this. Hearn is no mug, he knows Khan v Brook can be huge if both guys keep winning and Brook becomes a better known name, not just in the UK but for the US audience too, which has been feasting on khan fights for years.

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