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will GGG be a top 5 middleweight of all time by the end of his career ?

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  • #21
    Originally posted by La Mera Verdad View Post
    imo YES

    1.)Marvin Hagler
    2.)Sugar Ray Robinson
    3.)Carlos Monzon
    4.)GGG
    5.)Jake Lamotta or B-Hop
    GGG above Bhop? And your forgetting names like Fullmer, Tiger, heck even Leonard, only one fight but already a better resume than GGG.

    GGG has a long way to go before he gets mentioned as a great. But right now, in terms of the last 10 or 15 years, he is a top 5 middleweight.

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    • #22
      LOL, no. MW is one of the deepest divisions in the history of the sport and Golovkin has accomplished almost nothing in his era, let alone all time. Not his fault, but he doesn't get imaginary credit for those who ducked him or because he doesn't have anyone better to fight.

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      • #23
        Three pages in and not one mention of Greb....


        Personally I don't rate a title as having any intrinsic value other than it commonly stands you're beating high-level opposition. That said, if Golovkin unifies, defends, and remains unbeaten at MW over the next 4-5 years, then yes I would rate him as a top all time MW (without any particular ranking).

        Lemieux, Lee, N'Dam, Alvarez, Quillin/Jacobs winner, then the young guys like Khytrov, Derevyanshenko, Eubank, Soro, Magomedov, Douglass, Charlo, Andrade, J-Rock - that's a plausible resume if Golovkin retires at 38.

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        • #24
          Has he even fought a top 10 contender in his weight class, like 1 or 2 lol

          He has skills, but he hasnt had great challenges

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          • #25
            I'm waiting for Ward to come up , lol

            Back to topic, If he unifies and keep the winning streak with nothing but KO's, it almost impossible not to place him in top 5. But unifying is mandatory for that.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Golovkin View Post
              He is being called the Greatest/Most Feared Fighter Of All Time ALREADY so to say otherwise would be downright idiotic. Gennady has been the ONLY fighter in history to be so avoided by the top names. He is a phenomenon unlike ANYTHING seen in sports history.
              Another dumb post from the king of ignorance.

              The answer is no. Thee factors working against him. First he's 33 and hasn't made significant progress yet. Second, there really isn't the type of competition at his weight class and below to get him there. Lastly when presented with the type of fight that could get him there (Ward),he passed

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              • #27
                Originally posted by TX_BOXNG View Post
                Has he even fought a top 10 contender in his weight class, like 1 or 2 lol

                He has skills, but he hasnt had great challenges
                Macklin, Murray, Geale, Rubio, and Stevens were all top 10, I think. The only fighter I'm not sure about is Stevens.

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                • #28
                  the best he can do is unify and clear out the division. in this era, that will probably not be enough to leave him with a legacy like hagler or monzon, but his dominance will be undeniable, like wlad at heavyweight. achieving undisputed status ensures that a boxer's name will always be remembered, regardless of the circumstances

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by TX_BOXNG View Post
                    Has he even fought a top 10 contender in his weight class, like 1 or 2 lol

                    He has skills, but he hasnt had great challenges
                    Top 10 by who's standards? Proksa, Macklin, Stevens, Geale, Rubio were all rated top 10 MW's by Ring and their respective orgs. IWBR & TBRB both had some of those guys rated top 10 as well at the time Golovkin fought them.

                    None of Golovkin's opponents to date were outstanding MW's for this period, but all were solid contenders - no worse than when Hopkins fought Allen, Echols, or Vanderpool (pre-Trinidad).

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                    • #30
                      Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooolno

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