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  • #41
    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
    PBC started with much higher TV ratings when they debuted. And they have gone down each month. That's not because people don't know what PBC is. It's because people tested it out and are realizing it's a weak product. In a short amount of time there is a lot of negativity and criticism attached to PBC. That's the number 1 reason their ratings are tanking. The worst thing you can say about HBO is they are boring/avg because they are too good and consistent? LMAO
    PBC 5 months - HBO 30-40 years. Its not that difficult to understand. And no PBC is still building its audience. 5 months.

    Go ahead and compare if you want but its dumb to do so. They are 2 completly different things and 1 is still in its infancy. Ill let you figure out which one is.

    I know you dont understand it but give it time. You are part of the now now now age.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by daggum View Post
      except ward won't get on hbo unless he fights good fighters and he hasn't wanted to do that the last 4 years. hbo doesn't give people with 2 million guarantees any fight that they want. if they knew ward was up for bigger and better fights like kovalev is they would probably be willing to give him an easy fight here and there but instead he tried to fight caleb truax, periban, and dmitri sartison while refusing to fight bute, stevenson, and a froch rematch so hbo said ok take your talents to BET
      Agree with most of what you wrote , it's probably a $ thing with Ward but I wish HBO held all their fighters to the same standard as Ward.


      Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
      So because HBO is so good at what they do and they consistently hit the 1mil mark that somehow takes away the success? That's like saying who cares the Chicago bulls won another championship in the 90's they already won 5 prior. Showtime or any other cable channel hits 1mil it's a success and people are jumping up and down. Just because HBO has a long track record of success doesn't mean it's not a great for Kovalev. To put up these numbers in a fight against a weak opponent means he's carrying the card basically on his own. HBO just proves that they are the gold standard in boxing and that they know how to develop and market stars. Kovalev just outdid PBC's card last weekend on CBS (not cable frigging network TV). How many more homes is CBS in compared to HBO? And it's a free channel not a subscription channel. HBO could keep doing 1mil for each card the rest of the year and I promise you the exec's at HBO won't think it's avg or boring. And I promise the Kovalev camp is very happy today.
      Before I respond

      - Please use Paragraphs , Especially when you write 500 words of useless garbage

      - I swear you work for HBO because that's all I ever read from you is you ****ting on PBC and ******* off to HBO no matter what. Tough to take you serious when you have HershmAn semen dripping from your mouth.

      According to your post every event HBO has is a success. So there is no avg and no failure for them 800k = success , 1.0 = success , 1.3 = success. Do you know how ****** you sound. Look at the the numbers the last 3 years I bet 80-90 % do 1m plus. But because it's Kov doing 1m it's a sucess No it's Avg accept that.

      - You referencing the Bulls with possibly the greatest b-ball player ever and ultimate winner to 1m viewers on HBO is laughable at best. HBO avg 1m if not higher for almost every one of their Boxing shows. 1m isn't a sucess it's avg
      1.3 and above is good for HBO

      - Showtime has 1/4 of subscribers so when they hit 1m it's a sucess for them do you get the math or is it to hard for you.

      It's funny you bring up the Framton fight because it did over 1m is that a success. But I bet you posted in that thread how it was a failure. your rebuttal is CBS is available to more households then HBO similiAr to HBO has more subscribers then showtime so be fair and balanced ( which is probably impossible for you)

      - Most people watch because of 1 headline fighter that's why Garcia / Salka did 900k on showtime which is equivalent to 1.2-1.3 on HBO.

      - Yeah I agree HBO has been able to make stars but Kov isn't nearly there and him hitting 1.0 peak shows they have more work to do

      Now f.uck off and go write a 2 page essay on another thread on why you hate PBC

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      • #43
        Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
        Agree with most of what you wrote , it's probably a $ thing with Ward but I wish HBO held all their fighters to the same standard as Ward.



        Before I respond

        - Please use Paragraphs , Especially when you write 500 words of useless garbage


        - I swear you work for HBO because that's all I ever read from you is you ****ting on PBC and ******* off to HBO no matter what. Tough to take you serious when you have HershmAn semen dripping from your mouth.

        According to your post every event HBO has is a success. So there is no avg and no failure for them 800k = success , 1.0 = success , 1.3 = success. Do you know how ****** you sound. Look at the the numbers the last 3 years I bet 80-90 % do 1m plus. But because it's Kov doing 1m it's a sucess No it's Avg accept that.

        - You referencing the Bulls with possibly the greatest b-ball player ever and ultimate winner to 1m viewers on HBO is laughable at best. HBO avg 1m if not higher for almost every one of their Boxing shows. 1m isn't a sucess it's avg
        1.3 and above is good for HBO

        - Showtime has 1/4 of subscribers so when they hit 1m it's a sucess for them do you get the math or is it to hard for you.

        It's funny you bring up the Framton fight because it did over 1m is that a success. But I bet you posted in that thread how it was a failure. your rebuttal is CBS is available to more households then HBO similiAr to HBO has more subscribers then showtime so be fair and balanced ( which is probably impossible for you)

        - Most people watch because of 1 headline fighter that's why Garcia / Salka did 900k on showtime which is equivalent to 1.2-1.3 on HBO.

        - Yeah I agree HBO has been able to make stars but Kov isn't nearly there and him hitting 1.0 peak shows they have more work to do

        Now f.uck off and go write a 2 page essay on another thread on why you hate PBC
        I didnt read any further as that made me laugh!

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Fetta View Post
          PBC 5 months - HBO 30-40 years. Its not that difficult to understand. And no PBC is still building its audience. 5 months.

          Go ahead and compare if you want but its dumb to do so. They are 2 completly different things and 1 is still in its infancy. Ill let you figure out which one is.

          I know you dont understand it but give it time. You are part of the now now now age.
          Again stop with they are building their audience. Building implies the ratings are climbing or ascending. Actually it's opposite. Fact the ratings are dwindling steady each month. Boxing fans know what PBC is. When a fight is announced and tons of fans crap on the fight and say I am not watching that trash and then the ratings tank. That's not because fans didn't know what channel PBC is on. lol Especially not when they are spending millions on marketing more then HBO by the way for most of these fights. Trust me the word is out you can't go to a boxing website without seeing constant promo's for PBC fights. They are spending tons of money airing commercials for PBC and radio spots against more then HBO is. People are just not responding to the product. You can stick your head in the sand about it all you want. PBC is outspending HBO to put out a inferior looking product that loses millions each show. While HBO keeps putting out a better product, get's better fan reaction, consistent great ratings and makes money. And yes PBC is in it's infancy but it's impossible to state their work to this point as anything but a failure. Every measurement you can think of points to a bad sign for PBC. IF you say PBC has been a success to this point you are just lying yourself to sleep.

          Lets see terrible ratings, little to no tv sponsors, rumors that they can't sell tickets so they are just giving a mass amount of free tickets out every event, 2 huge lawsuits and a cloud of negativity surrounding them. They are out spending everyone else and getting nothing in return for it losing multi-millions every event. You are right that is exactly what an upstart company is looking for.

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          • #45
            Very good ratings, yeah it was a mismatch but it was also a high possibility for a KO so I can't argue what HBO is doing as far as selling KO's

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            • #46
              Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
              Again stop with they are building their audience. Building implies the ratings are climbing or ascending. Actually it's opposite. Fact the ratings are dwindling steady each month. Boxing fans know what PBC is. When a fight is announced and tons of fans crap on the fight and say I am not watching that trash and then the ratings tank. That's not because fans didn't know what channel PBC is on. lol Especially not when they are spending millions on marketing more then HBO by the way for most of these fights. Trust me the word is out you can't go to a boxing website without seeing constant promo's for PBC fights. They are spending tons of money airing commercials for PBC and radio spots against more then HBO is. People are just not responding to the product. You can stick your head in the sand about it all you want. PBC is outspending HBO to put out a inferior looking product that loses millions each show. While HBO keeps putting out a better product, get's better fan reaction, consistent great ratings and makes money. And yes PBC is in it's infancy but it's impossible to state their work to this point as anything but a failure. Every measurement you can think of points to a bad sign for PBC. IF you say PBC has been a success to this point you are just lying yourself to sleep.

              Lets see terrible ratings, little to no tv sponsors, rumors that they can't sell tickets so they are just giving a mass amount of free tickets out every event, 2 huge lawsuits and a cloud of negativity surrounding them. They are out spending everyone else and getting nothing in return for it losing multi-millions every event. You are right that is exactly what an upstart company is looking for.
              I hope you're getting paid for being a HBO Groupie, my goodness you're pathetic. It is really not that serious!

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              • #47
                Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                Again stop with they are building their audience. Building implies the ratings are climbing or ascending. Actually it's opposite. Fact the ratings are dwindling steady each month. Boxing fans know what PBC is. When a fight is announced and tons of fans crap on the fight and say I am not watching that trash and then the ratings tank. That's not because fans didn't know what channel PBC is on. lol Especially not when they are spending millions on marketing more then HBO by the way for most of these fights. Trust me the word is out you can't go to a boxing website without seeing constant promo's for PBC fights. They are spending tons of money airing commercials for PBC and radio spots against more then HBO is. People are just not responding to the product. You can stick your head in the sand about it all you want. PBC is outspending HBO to put out a inferior looking product that loses millions each show. While HBO keeps putting out a better product, get's better fan reaction, consistent great ratings and makes money. And yes PBC is in it's infancy but it's impossible to state their work to this point as anything but a failure. Every measurement you can think of points to a bad sign for PBC. IF you say PBC has been a success to this point you are just lying yourself to sleep.

                Lets see terrible ratings, little to no tv sponsors, rumors that they can't sell tickets so they are just giving a mass amount of free tickets out every event, 2 huge lawsuits and a cloud of negativity surrounding them. They are out spending everyone else and getting nothing in return for it losing multi-millions every event. You are right that is exactly what an upstart company is looking for.
                Like i said the now now now age.

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                • #48
                  Did I say any rating is a success for HBO? 1 mil is clearly the magic number for HBO anything hitting that yes I call a success. If this fight did 800k nobody would be writing it's a success. And my point is 1mil is a success it's just they are so consistent at hitting it that idiots like you now want to move the goal post and act like it's not. Bulls after 5 championships and winning a 6th is not avg. It's winning a championship which is their ultimate goal. HBO and Kovalev's camp are celebrating today while idiots like you complaining that 1 mil is just too avg. You think execs are at home crying that Kovalev fighting a no named fighter in a showcase fight did 1mil? About the same ratings he has pulled against other bigger named fighters. Except this time it was all him.

                  And Frampton fight did a 0.8 rating not 1 mil which is laughably bad on network TV. Reruns of Cops on Spike TV (basic cable not network TV) do better ratings then that with a mere fraction of the production budget without having to also spend the multi-millions on the fight purses and the millions spent on CBS to air the fights. PBC pays CBS not the other way around. You combine all the money PBC just lost to get bad ratings.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
                    Agree with most of what you wrote , it's probably a $ thing with Ward but I wish HBO held all their fighters to the same standard as Ward.



                    Before I respond

                    - Please use Paragraphs , Especially when you write 500 words of useless garbage

                    - I swear you work for HBO because that's all I ever read from you is you ****ting on PBC and ******* off to HBO no matter what. Tough to take you serious when you have HershmAn semen dripping from your mouth.

                    According to your post every event HBO has is a success. So there is no avg and no failure for them 800k = success , 1.0 = success , 1.3 = success. Do you know how ****** you sound. Look at the the numbers the last 3 years I bet 80-90 % do 1m plus. But because it's Kov doing 1m it's a sucess No it's Avg accept that.

                    - You referencing the Bulls with possibly the greatest b-ball player ever and ultimate winner to 1m viewers on HBO is laughable at best. HBO avg 1m if not higher for almost every one of their Boxing shows. 1m isn't a sucess it's avg
                    1.3 and above is good for HBO

                    - Showtime has 1/4 of subscribers so when they hit 1m it's a sucess for them do you get the math or is it to hard for you.

                    It's funny you bring up the Framton fight because it did over 1m is that a success. But I bet you posted in that thread how it was a failure. your rebuttal is CBS is available to more households then HBO similiAr to HBO has more subscribers then showtime so be fair and balanced ( which is probably impossible for you)

                    - Most people watch because of 1 headline fighter that's why Garcia / Salka did 900k on showtime which is equivalent to 1.2-1.3 on HBO.

                    - Yeah I agree HBO has been able to make stars but Kov isn't nearly there and him hitting 1.0 peak shows they have more work to do

                    Now f.uck off and go write a 2 page essay on another thread on why you hate PBC
                    Hard to take this seriously when you claim something ridiculous like that. Showtime has 3/4 of HBO's number of subscribers, not 1/4 lol

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                      So true. For example this outdid the ratings last week on CBS for the Frampton fight. A fraction of the PBC budget and on free network tv no less.
                      Ridiculous comment. You're comparing afternoon ratings to prime time ratings. It's apples and oranges.

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