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  • #31
    Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
    1m seems about avg for a name boxer on HBO it's nothing special. When was the last HBO main that didn't peak at a million ?


    It's not a fair comparison to say it did good againsr Wards #s on BET. I'm sure Kov #s on BET would be equally dismal. If Ward fought Smith on HBO he'd probably clear a million easy.
    While I somewhat agree, it begs the question: why Ward (who does strong ratings on HBO) was not able to replicate that success on a channel that many homes have? I was truly shocked at the low numbers.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
      You do realize BET wouldn't have Kovalev headlining a boxing telecast?
      Then why didn't he have that ugly mismatch on HBO?

      Did they turn it down because Smith was coming off 2 losses?

      I dont think BET has a black only policy ( Whites should be thankful if they did though) , But who cares why would anyone black or white want to be on that channel it's garbage.

      For whatever reason ugly mismatches are reserved for fighters that HBO has a hard on for ( Canelo, GGG and Kov ) as long as it ends in a KO , for some reason they seem to play hardball with Ward choosing his opponets. Maybe he wants to much $$ ?

      Doesn't change the fact Kov peaking at 1m isn't very impressive.

      Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
      While I somewhat agree, it begs the question: why Ward (who does strong ratings on HBO) was not able to replicate that success on a channel that many homes have? I was truly shocked at the low numbers.

      Probably because BET isn't known for boxing They're known for cooning and it was their first boxing show Not saying it did good #s because they ****** . All things being considered it was up against Broner / Pirter and Lemiux / N'dam I think it doubled Lemiux / N'dam. It's tough to gauge the first show #s.

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      • #33
        good for kovalev and hbo.kovalev is about to be a bigger star than ward is.that should help kovalev in the negotiation talks with ward when they fight each other.
        Last edited by GMAN SUPREME; 07-28-2015, 02:12 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by R_Walken View Post

          Doesn't change the fact Kov peaking at 1m isn't very impressive.
          Averaging 1.014 and peaking at 1.082 is pretty good considering the opponent was a total unknown. I personally think HBO got lucky with the numbers.

          But it's not always a guarantee to get 1M. Walters-Marriaga did like 562K.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Cuban Linx View Post
            Averaging 1.014 and peaking at 1.082 is pretty good considering the opponent was a total unknown. I personally think HBO got lucky with the numbers.

            But it's not always a guarantee to get 1M. Walters-Marriaga did like 562K.
            Disagree, Kovs been Headling or co-Headling HBO for like 2 years had like 6 fights with them. 1m isn't impressive it's avg for HBO especially for one of their marquee fighters.

            I'm not saying it's horrible but it's false to give props to #s.

            You brought up the lowest HBO match this year in comparison any things good compared to that.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
              1m seems about avg for a name boxer on HBO it's nothing special. When was the last HBO main that didn't peak at a million ?


              It's not a fair comparison to say it did good againsr Wards #s on BET. I'm sure Kov #s on BET would be equally dismal. If Ward fought Smith on HBO he'd probably clear a million easy.
              except ward won't get on hbo unless he fights good fighters and he hasn't wanted to do that the last 4 years. hbo doesn't give people with 2 million guarantees any fight that they want. if they knew ward was up for bigger and better fights like kovalev is they would probably be willing to give him an easy fight here and there but instead he tried to fight caleb truax, periban, and dmitri sartison while refusing to fight bute, stevenson, and a froch rematch so hbo said ok take your talents to BET

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              • #37
                Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
                Disagree, Kovs been Headling or co-Headling HBO for like 2 years had like 6 fights with them. 1m isn't impressive it's avg for HBO especially for one of their marquee fighters.

                I'm not saying it's horrible but it's false to give props to #s.

                You brought up the lowest HBO match this year in comparison any things good compared to that.
                So because HBO is so good at what they do and they consistently hit the 1mil mark that somehow takes away the success? That's like saying who cares the Chicago bulls won another championship in the 90's they already won 5 prior. Showtime or any other cable channel hits 1mil it's a success and people are jumping up and down. Just because HBO has a long track record of success doesn't mean it's not a great for Kovalev. To put up these numbers in a fight against a weak opponent means he's carrying the card basically on his own. HBO just proves that they are the gold standard in boxing and that they know how to develop and market stars. Kovalev just outdid PBC's card last weekend on CBS (not cable frigging network TV). How many more homes is CBS in compared to HBO? And it's a free channel not a subscription channel. HBO could keep doing 1mil for each card the rest of the year and I promise you the exec's at HBO won't think it's avg or boring. And I promise the Kovalev camp is very happy today.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                  So because HBO is so good at what they do and they consistently hit the 1mil mark that somehow takes away the success? That's like saying who cares the Chicago bulls won another championship in the 90's they already won 5 prior. Showtime or any other cable channel hits 1mil it's a success and people are jumping up and down. Just because HBO has a long track record of success doesn't mean it's not a great for Kovalev. To put up these numbers in a fight against a weak opponent means he's carrying the card basically on his own. HBO just proves that they are the gold standard in boxing and that they know how to develop and market stars. Kovalev just outdid PBC's card last weekend on CBS (not cable frigging network TV). How many more homes is CBS in compared to HBO? And it's a free channel not a subscription channel. HBO could keep doing 1mil for each card the rest of the year and I promise you the exec's at HBO won't think it's avg or boring. And I promise the Kovalev camp is very happy today.
                  5 months to 30-40 years. Thats the difference

                  And to show. My dad watched the fights and had no idea who either Kov orPascal were. He watched cause it was on HBO. Im sure he wasnt alone.

                  I agree with Walken that 1 mil is the norm. for HBO.

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                  • #39
                    HBO refused the Ward fight because he wanted such a weak opponent. HBO didn't want to pay the money Ward wanted for that fight. HBO is not Showtime where they just give a green light to fighters and their promoters to fight whoever they want and pay them. Remember Cotto's first choice for his fight this year was denied by HBO. He had to fight a tougher opponent and agree to fight Canelo next that's how he got his showcase fight on HBO. HBO has lasted this long by making smart decisions. And they are not afraid to tell big name fighters like Ward or Cotto no you need to fight someone better then that.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Fetta View Post
                      5 months to 30-40 years. Thats the difference

                      And to show. My dad watched the fights and had no idea who either Kov orPascal were. He watched cause it was on HBO. Im sure he wasnt alone.

                      I agree with Walken that 1 mil is the norm. for HBO.
                      PBC started with much higher TV ratings when they debuted. And they have gone down each month. That's not because people don't know what PBC is. It's because people tested it out and are realizing it's a weak product. In a short amount of time there is a lot of negativity and criticism attached to PBC. That's the number 1 reason their ratings are tanking. The worst thing you can say about HBO is they are boring/avg because they are too good and consistent? LMAO

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