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  • Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
    Yes, imagine if Ward wanted Kovalev at 171. Anybody who tries to justify this move by Golovkin can never be taken seriously.
    Why would Ward need it at 171 when he said he was going to 175?

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    • Originally posted by LeonSpinxMwfpce View Post
      Why would Ward need it at 171 when he said he was going to 175?
      Ward never said he wants Kovalev at 171 which was my point. Apparently that went over your head.

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      • Originally posted by Barcham View Post
        No, a catchweight between two fighters in the same weight class is never OK and neither is a catchweight for any title fight. The situation can not be compared to one with two fighters from different divisions meeting in the middle for a non title bout. Anyone who is unable to understand the difference is too ****** to be on the Internet in any capacity at all and most definitely should not be posting on message boards.
        One thing i dont like is the fact you think draining fighters is an option for a good fight , in current boxing fighters usually struggle to make weight so draining them extra pounds hurts their physical state in a bad way , if you believe that Ward should GO DOWN in weight , you need to think the same for a Ward Kovalev for example , in both cases i think its wrong to make a figther come down in weight as its always have greater impact and it shows in history that fighters that go down in weight usually loses.
        If you think Ward is too big and that makes it a missmatch - 100% , but dont blame Ward for not going down in weight , we shouldnt encourage it as fans , fighters do it for the paydays that it brings but we shouldnt endorce it.
        if GGG wants to be great and go fight the biggest threat to his carrer do it like it suppose to be done , if not , thats fine as well but you as a fan shouldnt go that CW route like you do. Ward barely makes 168 as it is now a 164 ward will be a dead man walking and a terrible fight.
        This is coming for a GGG fan .....
        going UP 4 and going DOWN 4 from your fighting weight are 2 different things all togther and you if you think otherwise "Anyone who is unable to understand the difference is too ****** to be on the Internet in any capacity at all and most definitely should not be posting on message boards".

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        • Originally posted by bluzi View Post
          One thing i dont like is the fact you think draining fighters is an option for a good fight , in current boxing fighters usually struggle to make weight so draining them extra pounds hurts their physical state in a bad way , if you believe that Ward should GO DOWN in weight , you need to think the same for a Ward Kovalev for example , in both cases i think its wrong to make a figther come down in weight as its always have greater impact and it shows in history that fighters that go down in weight usually loses.
          If you think Ward is too big and that makes it a missmatch - 100% , but dont blame Ward for not going down in weight , we shouldnt encourage it as fans , fighters do it for the paydays that it brings but we shouldnt endorce it.
          if GGG wants to be great and go fight the biggest threat to his carrer do it like it suppose to be done , if not , thats fine as well but you as a fan shouldnt go that CW route like you do. Ward barely makes 168 as it is now a 164 ward will be a dead man walking and a terrible fight.
          This is coming for a GGG fan .....
          going UP 4 and going DOWN 4 from your fighting weight are 2 different things all togther and you if you think otherwise "Anyone who is unable to understand the difference is too ****** to be on the Internet in any capacity at all and most definitely should not be posting on message boards".
          If Ward can't make 164 w/o losing much ability, then it is a size mismatch at this moment. It is a bad idea for Golovkin to bulk up, because he has a lot of unfinished business at 160 and even below...

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          • Originally posted by mick1303 View Post
            If Ward can't make 164 w/o losing much ability, then it is a size mismatch at this moment. It is a bad idea for Golovkin to bulk up, because he has a lot of unfinished business at 160 and even below...
            Sure Im on board with this , but Ward should not be blamed for the fight not taking place , thats what i mean , i dont think GGG should go after him now , better things to do @ 160 and he most def needs a fight or 2 in 168 before starting to get the big guys there. going up to 168 for a Ward fight on first 168 fight is a MAJOR risk , but you guys needs to stop blaming ward thats all im saying.

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            • Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
              Wrong. Both fighters are way past the stage in their careers where they need to let fights "marinate." Golovkin obviously doesn't believe he can beat Ward and moving up one division in weight is too much for boxing's "boogie man."
              So you honestly believe that they wouldn't make more money if GGG, for example, is coming off of a win with an opponent that's actually credible a year from now?

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              • Originally posted by 2shameless View Post
                I know that math is probably not your thing, but the equivalent CW would be 157 at the absolute lowest.
                " the equivalent " ?

                Get real !

                Golovkin demanded 164 because he knows that Ward cant make the weight.

                Cotto is the A-side, he will decide what " the equivalent " is.

                When a guy who never sold a PPV pulls the " A-side " card on a proven fighter like Andre Ward..... then that guy can expect to be ****d by Cotto.

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                • Originally posted by Barcham View Post
                  No, a catchweight between two fighters in the same weight class is never OK and neither is a catchweight for any title fight. The situation can not be compared to one with two fighters from different divisions meeting in the middle for a non title bout. Anyone who is unable to understand the difference is too ****** to be on the Internet in any capacity at all and most definitely should not be posting on message boards.
                  Stop with the bullshht Barcham, Cotto weighed 153 in his last fight.

                  Are you are boxing fan, or just a Golovkin fan ?

                  And dont start with me about that worthless strap.

                  Either Cotto should drop the strap, or you should stop crying about the strap.

                  Either of those things would fix the problem.

                  Cotto is obviously not a middleweight, and Cotto is most definitely the A-side.

                  Golovkin demanded 164, because he knows that Ward cant make the weight.

                  Golovkin stated that he can make 154, so 155 sounds about right to me

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                  • Originally posted by LeonSpinxMwfpce View Post
                    Its even funnier that Ward will go to 160 for Floyd, but cry about 164 for GGG.
                    He was never truly serious about going to 160 for Floyd. Golovtards have clutched onto that throwaway joke comment which Ward immediately clarified in an interview.



                    What's funniest is that YOU used to criticise fighters for asking for catchweights and are now fully behind it just because Golovkin is doing it. Saw an old thread of mine the other day which exposes your double standards

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                    • I should have guessed that Golovkin fans would run with a nice convenient set of double-standards.

                      Shameful.

                      Golovkin did 3 things.....
                      * he stated " anyone from 154-168 "
                      * he called out Froch/Chavez at 168
                      * he noticed that Ward weighed 172 for the Smith fight

                      And then, after thinking about it, he demanded a catchweight of 164 for Ward.

                      He wants Ward to drop another 8lbs.

                      Golovkin knows that Ward cant make 164..... GGG ducked Ward like a b1tch.

                      If you asshats dont think that Cotto saw what happened, you are crazy.....

                      * Cotto got shafted by Pacquiao, at catchweight, for his welterweight title
                      * Cotto heard that Golovkin offered to drop to 154 for Mayweather
                      * Cotto knows that Golovkin demanded a catchweight for Ward

                      If Golovkin wants to fight Miguel Cotto..... then he will be doing a lot of extra roadwork, eating a lot of lettuce, and spending a lot of time in the sauna..... and I cant wait to hear you Golovkids crying about that

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