Comments Thread For: Andre Ward-Gennady Golovkin Roadblocked Over Weight

[Barcham]

Everyone who campaigns in the "super or junior" divisions is looking for a weight advantage. The idea of these "inbetween" weights was for up and coming "growing" fighters to campaign at fairly!!!

With Ward & GGG weights it doesn't get any easier than...164....!


Lets go TEN rounds too since Ward can't make 160 and doesn't own any title!

Ray

Ten rounds, twelve rounds, doesn't matter. Ward will be KFTO in less than eight.

[aboutfkntime]

The winner of Cotto/Canelo cannot say this because GGG is a mandatory challenger to Cotto's belt.

Nah, the winner of Cotto/Canelo will do whatever he likes.

[aboutfkntime]

The thing people miss is moving up to 174, isn't really moving up for Ward. He is a Light Heavyweight. He boils down to 168.

He won his Olympic Medal at 178lb.

If you are going to comment, why not comment accurately ?

Ward chose to fight in a higher division so that he would not have to compete for the SMW spot against his close friend Andre Dirrell. They did not want to impede each others progress through the olympic trial system.

Ward won Olympic Gold by fighting as the smaller man.

He then immediately dropped back down to SMW, turned pro, and weighed 165 for his first pro fight back in 2004.

Attempting to insinuate that Ward is a LHW is at least inaccurate, if not dishonest.

[aboutfkntime]

If you are going to comment, why not comment accurately ?

Ward chose to fight in a higher division so that he would not have to compete for the SMW spot against his close friend Andre Dirrell. They did not want to impede each others progress through the olympic trial system.

Ward won Olympic Gold by fighting as the smaller man.

He then immediately dropped back down to SMW, turned pro, and weighed 165 for his first pro fight back in 2004.

Attempting to insinuate that Ward is a LHW is at least inaccurate, if not dishonest.

The 172 thing.....

Ward is 30+, was inactive for 18 months, obviously put on a bit of weight during that timeframe, and cannot make 168 as easily as he could a few years back..... 172 is a managed reintroduction back to 168.

His next fight will likely be at 170, then down to 168 after that.

I have seen this before, particularly with older fighters.

A well-managed reintroduction is 1) easier 2) less risky 3) will help preserve his career. Weight fluctuation/manipulation is a killer, most dont seem to understand that.

[aboutfkntime]

Common knowledge... At those Olympics, Golovkin beat Andre Dirrell -- at the middleweights... While Ward won the last U.S. gold medal at LMW.

Ward's style is perfect for the amateurs scoring system. After turning a pro, he only added some grappling, clinching and accidental headbutts (i.e. rough house and good ol' style, doe).

He doesn't "bleed down." He fought at light heavy in the Olympics to prevent fighting his buddy (Andre Dirrell) in the Trials.

Aaah ok, everybody does know what happened.

Also..... Ward weighed 165 when he first turned pro.

[New England]

He said he'd do 160 for Floyd why not 164 for GGG?

You guys say there's only a few pounds between them come fight night so why would making 164 be such a big deal?

do you really have to ask that?

[New England]

this fight, if properly built, will be freaking huge.

[SplitSecond]

this fight, if properly built, will be freaking huge.

100-200k buys? Or are we talking around 300k like Canelo-Lara/Cotto-Martinez?

[aboutfkntime]

Ward is a lot better than that, and beating him next would get GGG more respect within the sport than he would get for anybody at 160.

But unless Andre wakes up and does something with his career - and I'm not talking about beating somebody a division below his - he won't be remembered long after he goes.

And in the longer term, especially outside the sport, unifying the MW titles will do a lot more for GGG's legacy than a win over .... Andre who?

To be fair, I think that applies to Golovkin, way more than Ward.

In hindsight, this is what I believe history will say about Andre Ward.

* Olympic Gold Medallist
* Super-6 Tournament winner
* Dominated 168
* Dominated 175

Ward has pretty much already achieved the first 3 objectives on that list.

Golovkin has been campaigning for 9 years, has done absolutely nothing, and has shown no interest whatsoever in meaningful fights.

Case in point..... Team Golovkin actually attempted to argue that Willie Monroe was chosen over Erislandy lara because Monroe is a bigger draw.

Whereas with Canelo, his promoter made himself look silly trying to steer the ginger kid away from Lara, but Canelo wasn't having it..... Canelo demanded Lara, and forced the fight, infuriating his promoter in the process..... and he did it simply because some fans were saying that Lara cuold beat him.

The red-head kid came good, just waiting for Golovkin now, but he is clearly a very well-managed fighter. And "well-managed" is the most respectful term that I can think of, Golovkin is not far short of "protected".

[aboutfkntime]

Thats nonsense, all of the fighters know each other from when they are kids, and they have all fought each other before. To say he didn't want to fight in the best weight class for him while chasing after his life long dream is just silly.

I buy it with the Direll brothers, obviously don't want 2 brothers at the same weight. But with Ward? HA

He is a naturally big dude, that like to pretend he is not.

It is a well-known fact, and both fighters have admitted it on numerous occasions. Also, dont you remember the issue over Ward/Dirrell not wanting to fight each other during the Super-6?