Comments Thread For: Andre Ward-Gennady Golovkin Roadblocked Over Weight

[-Kev-]

To be completely honest why aren't you ward fans satisfied? If GGG wanted to he could offer ward 60/40 in favor of GGG, the place he wants to fight, at 160 (give ward the dawson treatment). Yet GGG is nice enough to bless ward with his ring presence at 164 for a 50/50 split! what the fu ck more do you want?

The "Dawson treatment" was proposed by Chad Dawson himself, not Ward. Ward just agreed. If Ward said, i'd fight GGG at 160 or a catchweight, and GGG agreed, then that would be all on Ward. But Ward has stood firm that he wants the fight at 168.

[Barcham]

The whole thog is hilarious

Rmember when floyd got a 1 lb CW from a dude he was giving up 20 lbs to? This whole forum, including me, went ape **** (i was ****** about that)

GGG "KO HWs" all of a sudden is into CWs. There is a cool correlation between GGG fans and Floyd haters, this has them doing turns and flips

He either wants it at 168 or not. Ward is not supid to go to 164 and the hear Kovalev talk at 175.

If GGG doesnt want it, say it. He is not ducking a dude a division above him. Reasonable fans know that. But from now on STFU about 154-175 and KOing Hws. Hype over.

About Cotto, well, Cotto can ask for a CW now and while I hate it, GGG has to understand him now

Sorry, but NO. There is a huge difference in two fighters from different divisions meeting at a catchweight in the middle and a middleweight defending his title against another middleweight at a catchweight just above the JMW limit. There is no excuse for Cotto and his catchweight bullshit.

[New England]

who exactly is left for ward at smw? Degale was literally the only legit choice but now that hes with haymon its not really a possibility

gennady golovkin on ppv. that's the only ppv fight for ward. just look at NSB. what else do they talk about other than ward, golovkin? i think it's got the boxing world going as crazy as any other fight. obviously casuals don't know it, and mayweather, pacuqiao, cotto, canelo, klitschko in germany, will still sell better because of that.


maybe kovalev at 175 is a ppv for ward, but that's at least a year down the road. i think that's the fight they're looking for that,.


they're obviously going ot try and get the fight with the smaller guy on ppv over the bigger guy on HBO. that's smart. the bigger guy will still be there when you finish fighting the smaller one. you really shouldn't move to 175 and back down again.

would any of the staunch golovkin fanboys, or ward fanboys, disagree with that? would they disagree that trying to fight golovkin is the smart thing to do?

[kafkod]

So your official stance here is Mayweather should retire because he's too good for 147 and Klitschko should retire because he's too good for heavyweight? lol what a joke you've become. Only guys who aren't dominating should continue boxing because dominating is not impressive, only struggling against "challenges" is.

That's exactly what these guys seem to saying.

Apparently, just knowing that GGG is the best MW in the world, and thinking about how he easily would beat Cotto, Canelo, Lemieux, Lee and Saunders, should be enough for GGG's fans.

No need to actually see him fighting any of them.

[-Kev-]

The whole thing is hilarious

Rmember when floyd got a 1 lb CW from a dude he was giving up 20 lbs to? This whole forum, including me, went ape **** (i was ****** about that)

GGG "KO HWs" all of a sudden is into CWs. There is a cool correlation between GGG fans and Floyd haters, this has them doing turns and flips

He either wants it at 168 or not. Ward is not supid to go to 164 and the hear Kovalev talk at 175.

If GGG doesnt want it, say it. He is not ducking a dude a division above him. Reasonable fans know that. But from now on STFU about 154-175 and KOing Hws. Hype over.

About Cotto, well, Cotto can ask for a CW now and while I hate it, GGG has to understand him now

Yep, if Cotto says "Come down to 154 b*tch, with the MW titles on the line." GGG and his fans better **** off.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Nicely put.

I've been saying for a long while now I think GGG-Ward is going to happen next year, after Golovkin takes care of the business he's been working so hard to accomplish.

Which is great. I want GGG to put to bed any questions that he is the best MW in the world. Which I think he is, people start sacking up at the weight class, and he gets to prove it.

[JaguaresMx]

Sorry, but NO. There is a huge difference in two fighters from different divisions meeting at a catchweight in the middle and a middleweight defending his title against another middleweight at a catchweight just above the JMW limit. There is no excuse for Cotto and his catchweight bullshit.

I also think Cotto should defend his MW title at 160, or drop it

But GGG just gave cotto the moral ammunition to demand a CW, like it or not

[New England]

Sorry, but NO. There is a huge difference in two fighters from different divisions meeting at a catchweight in the middle and a middleweight defending his title against another middleweight at a catchweight just above the JMW limit. There is no excuse for Cotto and his catchweight bullshit.

there's a bigger difference in size between cotto and golovkin than there is between golovkin and ward. miguel cotto is not a natural middleweight. golovkin and ward have been at or above 160 for over a decade.


miguel cotto was a 140 lber to start, if you recall. he was at his best at 147 lbs. he had decent speed, power, and was a great boxer. beat judah, mosley. margarito ruined that fighter. during that time, golovkin and ward were amateurs at LHW and MW respectively.

[ИATAS]

The "Dawson treatment" was proposed by Chad Dawson himself, not Ward. Ward just agreed. If Ward said, i'd fight GGG at 160 or a catchweight, and GGG agreed, then that would be all on Ward. But Ward has stood firm that he wants the fight at 168.

Dawson tried to negotiate a catch weight with Ward. Quite obviously it's on Dawson for ultimately accepting and dishing out the challenge, but he did in fact try to work out a deal with Ward. Dawson said “We wanted to do a catchweight at 170, but they threw it out the window. They said ‘no.’ We can’t make the fight unless it’s 168 pounds.

"My honest opinion is it was definitely a set up by HBO and other people, too. It was set up for me to come in at 168. I would be vulnerable and they could expose it and he would look good at the same time. That's just my opinion on the whole situation. We could've done it at a catch weight where we both would've been comfortable but they wanted it at 168."

Here was the challenge from Dawson:

KELLERMAN: Super middleweight champion?
DAWSON: Super middleweight champion. I could make 168 or we could do it at 175 —a catch weight— it don't matter to me.

[nycsmooth]

GGG can only go up so much or ghe's giving away 2 much...I'd rather c him take alvarez/cotto winner..