Let's see if you call holding and running defense than Floyd but if you call slipping ducking and blocking defense than Whitaker I'll go with Whitaker
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Who's the better defensive fighter Floyd Mayweather Jr. or Pernell Whitaker?
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Originally posted by Kagami Taiga View PostI honestly think it's floyd. Before it was a more even battle and Pernell might have the better wins but floyd has done it for longer and across more weight classes and he's come out with much less wear and tear and without being hurt as much.
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Sweet Pea and it's not really close. Floyd is arguably a better offensive fighter when he chooses to let his hands go, but Sweet Pea is up there with Locche, Prince Naseem, Burley, and James Toney, Floyd a tier below with RJJ and Rigo. I will always rate the fighters who's defense relies considerably on athleticism below the most gifted fighters who don't rely on the athleticism to be elite defensively.
Originally posted by b00g13man View PostI change my mind about the answer to this question daily. I voted Floyd today.
What was Sweet Pea doing when he was 37?Last edited by LoadedWraps; 07-15-2015, 11:40 PM.
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According to compubox its actually Floyd. But I wont go by them. I'll go with the gy who fought more fights, won more fights, beat more champions and did so without ever getting dropped on his ass. So my pick is Floyd.
And LOL at the people comparing old Floyd to prime Whitaker as if thats an accurate measure of who the better defensive fighter is.
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Both really great, hard to separate them
My pick is Whitaker because his defence often left both hands free to counter and he was more offensive minded.
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Originally posted by Xi_ View PostFloyd is 38 and at the top of the sport still..... How the fuk can anyone with a brain think that Whitaker has better defense?
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Originally posted by LoadedWraps View PostSweet Pea and it's not really close. Floyd is arguably a better offensive fighter when he chooses to let his hands go, but Sweet Pea is up there with Locche, Prince Naseem, Burley, and James Toney, Floyd a tier below with RJJ and Rigo. I will always rate the fighters who's defense relies considerably on athleticism below the most gifted fighters who don't rely on the athleticism to be elite defensively.
Doesn't really matter, longevity is a factor in comparing ATG resumes but fighters age differently, and Floyd has been protected at times and hasn't faced all possible opposition, and that's coming from a Floyd fan. Oscar isn't fighting anymore either but he was also a great defensive fighter and fighter overall. Salvador Sanchez had a short career but that doesn't affect who he was in his active prime.
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Originally posted by LoadedWraps View PostSweet Pea and it's not really close. Floyd is arguably a better offensive fighter when he chooses to let his hands go, but Sweet Pea is up there with Locche, Prince Naseem, Burley, and James Toney, Floyd a tier below with RJJ and Rigo. I will always rate the fighters who's defense relies considerably on athleticism below the most gifted fighters who don't rely on the athleticism to be elite defensively.
Doesn't really matter, longevity is a factor in comparing ATG resumes but fighters age differently, and Floyd has been protected at times and hasn't faced all possible opposition, and that's coming from a Floyd fan. Oscar isn't fighting anymore either but he was also a great defensive fighter and fighter overall. Salvador Sanchez had a short career but that doesn't affect who he was in his active prime.
What fights of his have you seen?
And did you really just put Prince Naseem in the top tier of defence? Followed by saying "I always rate guys who rely on athleticism below guys who don't rely on gifts" ? How can you possibly say that with a straight face when you have Prince Naseem in there?
How did Pernell Whitaker not rely on his athleticism and gifts?
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