Comments Thread For: DiBella Defends Haymon/PBC Against Lawsuit Troubles

[IMDAZED]

I never said he ducked Tszyu. I just said he took the easy fight with Gatti. no doubt it was smart business. It was a guaranteed victory vs a big name.

But he wasn't lineal at 140. He won lineal in 4 classes, just like Pac did. I just mentioned that bc this guy starts bragging about how floyd is the best ever in an article that is about haymon

But he didn't take the easy fight. Tszyu simply wasn't available. Plus it didn't make sense for Tszyu anyway with Hatton being more lucrative. You act like Floyd had the option.

[Dolezal]

They have no legitimate claim of a greivance through the law that they are alleging he broke. The Ali act is meant to protect fighters from promoters not to protect promoters from managers. If Haymon is indeed found to be in violation of the Ali Act I really don't see how it benefits Arum and De la Hoya's case of a claim against him. The Ali Act seems to be more of a fail safe against promoters wielding control over the fighters manager. If the manager is wielding control over the promoter it only serves to benefit the fighter. It was Bob Arum, HBO and De la Hoya who refused to do business with Al Haymon in attempt to blackball and ostresize him now they seem to be getting a dose of their own medicine and are looking to be bailed out of the predicament they have found themselves in through a lawsuit. Oh how the tables turn...

Arum's suit claimed much more than just the ali act, buddy. I'm not going to argue the merits of the lawsuit with you because it's a pointless exercise.

[about.thousands]

no one said Dibella is breaking the law. and, its only a conspiracy on Dibella's part if he was involved in the scheme to begin with. from the facts as we know them, he was not. PBC was set, signed a number of fighters to manager/advisor contracts. Then, PBC did the job of the promoter by securing investrs, getting tv deals, getting venues, and as such, securing urses for the fighters. once all the promoters work was , in essence done, he came to agreement withs promoters, like Dibella, and said you can promote this card for this % of the revenue or for a flat fee - not quite sure. DiBella did nothing wrong, but theres definietely a valid claim that PBC is a manager and promoter

Let me put it to you this way. Do you think Lou, who is getting more exposure for his company than he has since he stopped working with HBO, is going to let Haymon do anything that would expose himself to violations of the Ali Act? Not only would it effect Haymon it would effect Lou. You have to look at the situation with common sense. Everyone involved is looking out for their own self-interest. It doesn't serve Lou well to knowingly allow Haymon to break the Ali Act, the Act he helped write.

[peplz]

1st off, he never won lineal at 140 - he took the easy fight vs Gatti instead of the tough challenege vs Tszyu - like he often does.

2nd off, there are plenty of other great fighters who have done things that no one else has ever done, fighters like SRR and Ali

3rd, what does how much money he made have anything to do with him being the best ever - thats him being the richest ever, and you'll get no dispute there. he's the richest, smartest boxing businessman in boxing

That said, this article is about Haymon. Can we save your floyd D**k suckin for an article that is actually about floyd

Wow there it's funny how haters always have ****sexuality on their minds... It must be some kind of personality defect that comes with the package. Lol... No one in the history of the sport has accomplished as many things that no one else has accomplished int the sport of boxing as Mayweather. Don't it hurt so bad... Al Haymon is going to win and even if he didn't Floyd Mayweather is The Best Ever. Hahaha. Don't it hurt so bad...

[peplz]

Arum's suit claimed much more than just the ali act, buddy. I'm not going to argue the merits of the lawsuit with you because it's a pointless exercise.

You were the one who brought up the laws that he broke. And, it is a pointless exercise to try to bring up the merits of a case that lacks merit. So your statement is redundant. Buddy... Lol

[Dolezal]

You were the one who brought up the laws that he broke. And, it is a pointless exercise to try to bring up the merits of a case that lacks merit. So your statement is redundant. Buddy... Lol

Yeah, but you only addressed one of the many laws. One paragraph on a boxing forum does not defeat a law suit. If you truly want to discuss the merits, I'll allow you to file an informal amicus curiae brief directly to my private messages. I expect your you to address the complaint in its entirety. Moreover, you are to cite both federal and state cases (California) supporting your memorandum of points and authorities. Please use proper bluebook citations, and don't forget a table of contents and table of authorities.

I look forward to reading your brief.

[bigdunny1]

The fact that Lou helped write the Ali act a lifetime ago has no relevance into whether or not Haymon is violating it. Lou is not named in the lawsuit nor is any of the sham promoters. The question is do you believe Haymon is acting as a promoter and manager? Everyone including Lou knows he is not really the promoter of these fights and is not handling the promoter duties he would normally handle if it were any legit fights he was promoting. Now whether you think GB/Top Rank are doing this to protect fighters or their own interests is a separate issue. The Ali Act is specific in that one person can not act as Promoter and Manager because of the risk. The argument that because no fighters are complaining we should just ignore what Haymon is doing when it is illegal is idiotic. And even if what haymon is doing right now is not hurting fighters how can you say that will remain going forward?

I'll say it again the law is you can't drink and drive. The spirit of the law is that it's out of safety. You can't get pulled over and say but officer I'm a great driver when I'm drunk and I have not hurt anybody else on the road and I don't see any other cars complaining. No you go to jail because it's clear no drinking and driving because of the potential risk. Well law is you can't promote and manage because the potential risk down the line. The more courts and government looks the more trouble Haymon is in. It's clear to anyone with 2 eyes he is double dipping. We already have a dumb fighter posting his fight night check on instagram and the check has Haymon's name on it something only promoters are supposed to do. His fighters in dozens of interviews have slipped up and named Haymon as their promoter. These will all be used as evidence in court that he is doing more then just managing.

[IMDAZED]

I have to chuckle when people get all upset at the idea that Haymon goes by the advisor title as opposed to manager or promoter.

Pray tell...why do you care? Who is it hurting?

[peplz]

I never said he ducked Tszyu. I just said he took the easy fight with Gatti. no doubt it was smart business. It was a guaranteed victory vs a big name.

But he wasn't lineal at 140. He won lineal in 4 classes, just like Pac did. I just mentioned that bc this guy starts bragging about how floyd is the best ever in an article that is about haymon

An article about Haymon that people like you comment on because of your hatred towards Mayweather. And you are wrong. Mayweather beat Arturo Gatti for the WBC light welter weight title that belonged to Gatti before he lost it to Mayweather. Beating the person who had the belt makes Mayweather the lineal champion. Boxing 101...

[peplz]

Yeah, but you only addressed one of the many laws. One paragraph on a boxing forum does not defeat a law suit. If you truly want to discuss the merits, I'll allow you to file an informal amicus curiae brief directly to my private messages. I expect your you to address the complaint in its entirety. Moreover, you are to cite both federal and state cases (California) supporting your memorandum of points and authorities. Please use proper bluebook citations, and don't forget a table of contents and table of authorities.

I look forward to reading your brief.

You look forward to reading my brief? Lol. I'm not a lawyer and we aren't in court. Was the point of that comment to prove to me that you're an attorney? That was the most childish and sophisticated statement at the same time that I've ever seen here. I don't know if I should be impressed or offended. Lol. "One of the many laws". Pah! You just made that up out of thin air and everyone reading your post knows it. But I hope that made you feel really smart and important. Lol...