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  • peplz
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    #91
    Originally posted by !! Shawn
    Lol! You really think thats what its about?

    I think more people are mad that Haymon used Floyd as leverage for many years to extort networks into wasting their budget overpaying for garbage fights to showcase his fighters against noname tomato-cans like Rod Salka.

    I think more people are mad that he has created an environment where it is no longer possible for the best to fight the best in each division.

    Im hard pressed to think of a single division in the sport where two top fighters are not being kept apart by Al Haymon.

    122, 126, 140, 147, 160, 174 thats just off the top of my head divisions that are basically on hold because of Al Haymon, or have been recently.

    174 - Kovalev vs Stevenson
    160 - Quillen vs Martinez & GGG
    147 - Everyone is being kept away from Floyd, and each other. Khan is being protected, Thurman is being kept away from meaningful step-up fights + more stuff than I care to list.
    140 - Danny Garcia. You dont need to say much more than that. Being kept away from a Matthysse rematch, for years while fighting nobody at all. Kept away from Bradley. Kept away from Terrance Crawford, Postal, Providnikov.
    126 - Harboring runaways from Rigondeaux, and now having them fight each other instead of putting them in there for a tittle.
    122 - Has kept LSC, and Mares from unifying with Rigondeaux for years, and now is doing the same with Frampton.

    I think thats why people dont like him, and think he is bad for boxing.
    Al Haymon was the force behind the boxing cold war.
    And the only reason that you blame Haymon for all of that stuff is because he represents Floyd Mayweather. Meanwhile I didn't hear one mention of the welfare of the actual fighters or the Ali act in your post. Just another typically slanted and biased mad fan rant.

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    • tostao
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      #92
      Pls take into consideration how many well-paid jobs al haymon created in the usa unlike huge corporations taking jobs south of border and to china . This guy deserves life time monument

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      • MrP4P
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        #93
        So what the heck what

        People against this arent fans of Boxing, they little fanboys with man crushes

        Theres nothing wrong with free Boxing

        The fighters are ABSOLUTELY happy and well taken care

        This lawsuit is supposed to be for the well being of fighters, meanwhile every fighter is happier than ever with Haymon

        People against Haymon are weird. This has nothing to do with us and not effecting us as fans. What? The fighters should be forced to sign with a slimeball promoter and get paid peanuts? They wouldnt sign to any of those promotions anyway , the "fights" people want to see still wont get made. What happened to the COLD WAR IS OVER. BOB ARUM ND OSCAR ARE BFFS

        There hasnt been no big GB/TR fights between the two rosters.

        This is so silly
        Last edited by MrP4P; 07-09-2015, 09:35 PM.

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        • !! Shawn
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          #94
          Originally posted by peplz
          And the only reason that you blame Haymon for all of that stuff is because he represents Floyd Mayweather. Meanwhile I didn't hear one mention of the welfare of the actual fighters or the Ali act in your post. Just another typically slanted and biased mad fan rant.
          What does Floyd have to do with any of this? Floyd has never only fought guys represented by Al Haymon.

          You are delusional if you think everyone is as juvenile as you are, and dislikes fighters because of their advisor, or advisors because of fighters they represent.

          The welfare of the fighters is not really in jeapordy at the moment, as Al's interests and the fighters interests financially line up pretty closely at the moment since he is taking a percentage of their paycheck, he quite an incentive to keep robbing the hedge fund blind and pay them very well.

          He is however clearly violating the Ali act. Its not deniable. The fact the Chavez Jr, has a check from Haymon is a violation of the Ali act. Al tries to get around it by calling himself an Advisor instead of a manager, but a manager gets his money from the fighter. A manager does not pay the fighter. The Ali act makes this very clear.

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          • !! Shawn
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            #95
            Originally posted by MrP4P
            So what the heck what

            People against this arent fans of Boxing, they little fanboys with man crushes

            Theres nothing wrong with free Boxing

            The fighters are ABSOLUTELY happy and well taken care

            This lawsuit is supposed to be for the well being of fighters, meanwhile every fighter is happier than ever with Haymon

            People against Haymon are weird. This has nothing to do with us and not effecting us as fans. What? The fighters should be forced to sign with a slimeball promoter and get paid peanuts? They wouldnt sign to any of those promotions anyway , the "fights" people want to see still wont get made. What happened to the COLD WAR IS OVER. BOB ARUM ND OSCAR ARE BFFS

            There hasnt been no big GB/TR fights between the two rosters.

            This is so silly
            Why wouldn't they be happy? He has a large pool of cash right now, and is paying them way more than they are worth to fight bums.

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            • peplz
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              #96
              Originally posted by !! Shawn
              What does Floyd have to do with any of this? Floyd has never only fought guys represented by Al Haymon.

              You are delusional if you think everyone is as juvenile as you are, and dislikes fighters because of their advisor, or advisors because of fighters they represent.

              The welfare of the fighters is not really in jeapordy at the moment, as Al's interests and the fighters interests financially line up pretty closely at the moment since he is taking a percentage of their paycheck, he quite an incentive to keep robbing the hedge fund blind and pay them very well.

              He is however clearly violating the Ali act. Its not deniable. The fact the Chavez Jr, has a check from Haymon is a violation of the Ali act. Al tries to get around it by calling himself an Advisor instead of a manager, but a manager gets his money from the fighter. A manager does not pay the fighter. The Ali act makes this very clear.
              http://********/58eOGqCzwVg

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              • Thickback
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                #97
                Its sad that so many people complain about all this free boxing. There were times when we waited months for a decent fight because HBO had the game f'd up. Everybody wanted more boxing but because its Haymon, u dummies complain. Arum is a devil but y'all applaud that POS's lawsuit. FOH....

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                • Hank Hill
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                  #98
                  those lawsuits arent going to go anywhere , golden boy's lawsuit is about to get thrown out before it even starts ( morons forgot about the clause in their last lawsuit saying any future related matters would not go to court ) checkmate.

                  top ranks lawsuit is no more than someone *****ing and crying that another business's success is not good for them. welcome to capitalism, now *** off bob

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                  • SugarRaRobinson
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by !! Shawn
                    What does Floyd have to do with any of this? Floyd has never only fought guys represented by Al Haymon.

                    You are delusional if you think everyone is as juvenile as you are, and dislikes fighters because of their advisor, or advisors because of fighters they represent.

                    The welfare of the fighters is not really in jeapordy at the moment, as Al's interests and the fighters interests financially line up pretty closely at the moment since he is taking a percentage of their paycheck, he quite an incentive to keep robbing the hedge fund blind and pay them very well.

                    He is however clearly violating the Ali act. Its not deniable. The fact the Chavez Jr, has a check from Haymon is a violation of the Ali act. Al tries to get around it by calling himself an Advisor instead of a manager, but a manager gets his money from the fighter. A manager does not pay the fighter. The Ali act makes this very clear.
                    The Ali act was protection for a fighter in the sense that it provides supposed indemnity against double dipping which historically left fighters insolvent . Al Haymon fighters get overpaid, so at that point if he is violating the Ali act it's just a silly technicality. If he's getting his fighters more money then he's actually honoring the Ali Act regardless of wearing multiple hats .

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
                      The Ali act was protection for a fighter in the sense that it provides supposed indemnity against double dipping which historically left fighters insolvent . Al Haymon fighters get overpaid, so at that point if he is violating the Ali act it's just a silly technicality. If he's getting his fighters more money then he's actually honoring the Ali Act regardless of wearing multiple hats .
                      I'm still trying to figure out who's hurting from Haymon's venture. Is it the fighters? No. Fans? No. So we're fighting for Top Rank and GBP? That's what's hot in 2015? Ok.

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