Could Matthysse beat Mayweather? (Seriously)

[FrankieClutch]

Danny Garcia outboxed him man,seriously that really happened

I hate to be that guy, because I give Danny full credit for that win and ate crow afterwards, but Lucas' eye played a part in that IMO. I still think Lucas is a better boxer than Danny

[Larry the boss]

I hate to be that guy, because I give Danny full credit for that win and ate crow afterwards, but Lucas' eye played a part in that IMO. I still think Lucas is a better boxer than Danny

Yea but Dannys fist is the reason Lucas had an eye issue

[Larry the boss]

I'm saying he gives Floyd problems and will be competitive, he will have his moments. Do I think he wins? Probably not but at the same time I wouldn't rule him or anybody with that kind of power out of any fight.
There are only like three guys around the weight that I think would be competitive. Cotto rematch, Lara, Matthysse.

All these others get shut out.
I don't care if Floyd wins, I just want to see good, competitive match ups. Is he better than everyone else? Sure, doesn't mean I don't want to see guys I think can give him a good go fight him.
Its the same with Wladimir, same with Rigondeaux they're levels above but I still want to see how they deal with particular opponents, particular styles and skillsets.

I have no interest in say Keith Thurman, that is an easy fight for Floyd. Stylistically an easy fight. All these names I keep hearing are easy fights.

Power means nothing when you are talking Mayweather man,stop..he would not even be the top 5 hardest punch Mayweather has faced

[Build That Wall]

Yea but Dannys fist is the reason Lucas had an eye issue

Thats the truth

[dan_cov]

Just because a fighter losses to one deemed lesser doesn't mean ****.
No two fights are the same and just because a young, big at the weight Danny Garcia ate some absolute bombs from Lucas or Ruslan with his 50lb head doesn't mean a 40yr old Floyd can.
D Garcia ate bombs from Holt too, I don't doubt he has a hell of a chin on him, same with Ruslan.

We've seen Floyd rocked by lesser fighters, we've also seen bigger punchers than them not put a dent in him.
Hell Corley probably hurt him more than Oscar and a lot of guys. There are so many factors.

Floyd don't have the power Danny Garcia does to deter him and the lowblows certainly played a part.
Even with one eye, after 20+ low blows, he finished the fight stronger.

So what if he lost a close fight to the #1 at 140
Why should we watch him fight say Thurman over Lucas? An inexperienced guy who hasn't fought absolutely anybody and is stylistically an easy fight.

He lost a fight, we get it. Cotto, Mosley, Manny, Marquez, Maidana and so on all lost several along the way.

[Dolezal]

Its possible.
IDC who says otherwise, that is not an easy fight stylistically for Floyd not for no 40yr old version.

Just because he can box people say he isn't a pressure fighter. They was sleeping on his boxing ability before, how fickle.
He applies pressure as good as anybody.
That is what a well polished pressure fighter should look like.
He pressures boxers and boxes pressure fighters!

A very good jab, good counterpunching, can cut a ring off, doubles and trebles up on his punches, one of the best finishers in the sport. Tremendous engine, great punch output & 1 punch power in either hand! He don't have to catch guys flush to **** their whole world up.
He has all the tools to give Floyd bags of problems and anybody in or around that weight class.
Nobody is shutting Lucas Matthysse out.

There is no doubt in my mind Lucas gives Floyd a fight.

Just because a fighter losses to one deemed lesser doesn't mean ****.
No two fights are the same and just because a young, big at the weight Danny Garcia ate some absolute bombs from Lucas or Ruslan with his 50lb head doesn't mean a 40yr old Floyd can.
D Garcia ate bombs from Holt too, I don't doubt he has a hell of a chin on him, same with Ruslan.

We've seen Floyd rocked by lesser fighters, we've also seen bigger punchers than them not put a dent in him.
Hell Corley probably hurt him more than Oscar and a lot of guys. There are so many factors.

Floyd don't have the power Danny Garcia does to deter him and the lowblows certainly played a part.
Even with one eye, after 20+ low blows, he finished the fight stronger.

So what if he lost a close fight to the #1 at 140
Why should we watch him fight say Thurman over Lucas? An inexperienced guy who hasn't fought absolutely anybody and is stylistically an easy fight.

He lost a fight, we get it. Cotto, Mosley, Manny, Marquez, Maidana and so on all lost several along the way.

Dan cov always bringing objectivity and reason.

War Dan

War Mattysse

[dan_cov]

Power means nothing when you are talking Mayweather man,stop..he would not even be the top 5 hardest punch Mayweather has faced

He doesn't just have power though that just further makes it intriguing.

There are different types of power and you have to factor in so many different things timing, accuracy of the shot etc
Floyd seen most of their shots coming he never against Corley and was clearly buzzed, he didn't see Shane's shot coming if he did it was very late.

If Lucas hits him or anybody clean he can and will hurt them. It don't matter how good these cats chins are if Lucas lands clean you will feel it no matter how well you might masque it, you'll know you've been hit.

Can he still take them at his age? Over 12 rounds like he could when he was younger?

[John Barron]

Danny Garcia outboxed him man,seriously that really happened

and people forgot the first 6 rounds where gift looked like a pedestrian getting hooked to death. he looked garbage for like 6 rounds straight till he sc****s matthysse's eye with whatever that bull**** slap was and takes over. even then he barely sc****s by on points according to official scoring. lucas still put up a fight. gift didn't outbox ****

did you watch garcia-herrera or garcia-peterson? cause that's what outboxing someone looks like.

[Joe Beamish]

Just because a fighter losses to one deemed lesser doesn't mean ****.
No two fights are the same and just because a young, big at the weight Danny Garcia ate some absolute bombs from Lucas or Ruslan with his 50lb head doesn't mean a 40yr old Floyd can.
D Garcia ate bombs from Holt too, I don't doubt he has a hell of a chin on him, same with Ruslan.

We've seen Floyd rocked by lesser fighters, we've also seen bigger punchers than them not put a dent in him.
Hell Corley probably hurt him more than Oscar and a lot of guys. There are so many factors.

Floyd don't have the power Danny Garcia does to deter him and the lowblows certainly played a part.
Even with one eye, after 20+ low blows, he finished the fight stronger.

So what if he lost a close fight to the #1 at 140
Why should we watch him fight say Thurman over Lucas? An inexperienced guy who hasn't fought absolutely anybody and is stylistically an easy fight.

He lost a fight, we get it. Cotto, Mosley, Manny, Marquez, Maidana and so on all lost several along the way.

I don't see any substantiation for these two assertions. Who else besides Mosley ever "rocked" Floyd? Do you have any video?

And Floyd has shown enough snap -- if not tremendous power -- to deter just about everybody he's fought. Again I point you to the Canelo fight. Floyd jabs, moves, snaps Canelo's head back, moves and snaps again. Single punches that are timed perfectly and that clearly sting. What does Canelo do in response? The same thing everyone else does. Nothing. He becomes tame. Maidana kept coming, kept throwing overhand rights and wild punches...to no good effect as he -- like everyone else -- was out-punched and outscored round after round.

I agree Matthysse could win maybe 3 rounds or something and "give Floyd a fight" to THAT extent, but if you can't see Floyd's vast superiority over everyone else in boxing today you need to get your brain checked.

[FrankieClutch]

Yea but Dannys fist is the reason Lucas had an eye issue

For sure, 100%. I'd love to see a rematch