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  • DreamerUSA
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    #91
    Originally posted by JRB123
    Question for the people:

    How is Thurman any more worthy of the fight against Mayweather than Shawn Porter?

    I'd like to get the answers to this one...thanks.
    Floyd's mandatory for 2 years.

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    • DreamerUSA
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      #92
      Originally posted by PBP
      So is Erislandy Lara. And he's a lot more deserving than Thurman.
      If Floyd were to fight at 154 in his next fight I would agree.

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      • JRB123
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        #93
        Originally posted by DreamerUSA
        Floyd's mandatory for 2 years.
        I agree with PBP on this one. Lara is more deserving than Thurman is. Furthermore, Floyd is a multi-division champion, so there are other "mandatories" that are in the mix as well (Canelo, Lara, Khan).

        On top of that, Porter has a better set of fights that he went through compared to Thurman. Diaz, Alexander, Malignaggi, Brook, Bone and Broner compared to Zaveck, Chaves, Karass, Diaz, Bundu, and Guerrero. I'd take Porter's list over Thurman's.

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          #94
          Originally posted by JRB123
          I agree with PBP on this one. Lara is more deserving than Thurman is. Furthermore, Floyd is a multi-division champion, so there are other "mandatories" that are in the mix as well (Canelo, Lara, Khan).

          On top of that, Porter has a better set of fights that he went through compared to Thurman. Diaz, Alexander, Malignaggi, Brook, Bone and Broner compared to Zaveck, Chaves, Karass, Diaz, Bundu, and Guerrero. I'd take Porter's list over Thurman's.
          Again if Floyd were to fight at 154, Lara without a doubt deserves the shot. Not sure why you guys keep trying to move the goal post when my original post in this thread clearly stated welterweight, but whatever.

          As far as Porter goes. If he had beat Brook then I would'nt take issue with people making the case for him to fight Floyd. While Porter's resume is on par with Thurmans, he is'nt Floyd's mandatory.

          As far as mandatories go you have Thurman and Lara who have waited for their opportunity longer than anyone else.

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          • comanick
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            #95
            Originally posted by DreamerUSA
            I see you completely ignore the fact that Keith has been Floyd's mandatory for 2 years. Again I ask the question. Is'nt that the very definition of earning your shot in boxing?

            Also. Guerrero was top ten when they fought according to Ring. So he has wins over two top ten welterweights. Also Bundu was ranked in the top ten by all four major sanctioning bodies when they fought.
            No offense but i dont put much stock in any sanctioning bodies ranking/mandatories because they are bias. Most dont even rank champs that hold a belt for another organization as if they arent in the same division or something. Basically the mandatory is who ever they want the mandatory to be at that time.

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            • tredh
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              #96
              Originally posted by Weebler I
              He's not really, he's just the one with the biggest name in the US, same reason Karass gets mentioned. Chaves and Zaveck were better opponents and a case can be made for Bundu too albeit I'd probably put Guerrero ahead of him.

              Thurman is widely seen as the most dangerous welterweight in the division and the response from Mayweather has been "he's too green", "here, fight Spence", and now from Ellerbe "he's not a big enough name".

              Entirely predictable.
              Why though? Just cause he is a power puncher? Does that really make him a real credible and dangerous opponent for Floyd?

              People really need to look at what they are saying. Being dangerous for the welterweight division and being dangerous for Floyd is 2 completely different things.

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              • Mr.MojoRisin'
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                #97
                After Mayweather's fight in September. Kell Brook and Keith Thurman should fight to decide who Mayweather's last opponent is.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by PBP
                  He's right. Thurman ain't fought nobody. Berto has even fought tougher opposition than Thurman.
                  That's right.

                  Marquez, Ortiz, Guerrero, Hatton, Maidana, Sharmba,...... all had these great resumes at WW ...... oh wait! They were even considering Khan for years now without doing much of anything at WW.

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by DreamerUSA
                    Again if Floyd were to fight at 154, Lara without a doubt deserves the shot. Not sure why you guys keep trying to move the goal post when my original post in this thread clearly stated welterweight, but whatever.

                    As far as Porter goes. If he had beat Brook then I would'nt take issue with people making the case for him to fight Floyd. While Porter's resume is on par with Thurmans, he is'nt Floyd's mandatory.

                    As far as mandatories go you have Thurman and Lara who have waited for their opportunity longer than anyone else.
                    I completely disagree with your take on this.

                    I take note of a fighter, when they start competing on the world stage.

                    Thurman started with Guerrero, and has fought once since then.

                    He stepped onto the world stage 4 months ago, and backed up with Collazo.

                    And you think that is deserving of Mayweather ?

                    Brook..... he entered the world stage with Porter, and backed up with Gavin.

                    The current crop of welters fall waaay short of Mayweather.

                    Not one of them deserve a Mayweather fight.

                    For Thurman/Brook/Porter/Khan/Bradley to deserve (earn, because thats what deserve means, right?) a Mayweather fight..... they would need to fight these guys..... Thurman/Brook/Porter/Khan/Bradley.

                    I dont know how you can " earn " something, or " deserve " something..... by doing next to nothing.

                    The real point is, Mayweather schedule has been visible for the past 3 years.

                    Anyone who wanted that payday had plenty of time to position themselves.

                    You do not position yourself or prepare for Mayweather by fighting Collazo/Gavin/Algieri/Vargas/Broner.

                    Porter is the most deserving, as he is the only one trying to make good fights against top opponents..... but he lost to Brook.

                    None of them deserve it, because none of them made the effort..... and none of them can beat Mayweather, not even close.

                    Brook makes the best fight because of style. Bradley could offer a good challenge, but his ability to stick to the best possible gameplan is questionable.

                    Lara is definitely more deserving, and would offer more of a challenge.

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