Was Willie Pep a running coward?

[Xi_]

all of em?

Clinching is OK as long as it isn't excessive. Ali, Johnson, and wlad clinched way more than Floyd.

[AddiX]

No, not really. Incorrect again.

How many lbs did Pep move up in weight compared to Mayweather?

Quit while you're behind clearly you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Floyd moved up In weight because he had trouble making weight. It was a natural move up, Peps frame didn't have that ability, Just look at him, What's your point here anyway?

Floyd retired when his division was the toughest, there's no denying that, he ran away from it. he didn't want to fight Cotto coming off his win vs mosley, he didn't want Paul Williams or Margarito, he ran when bigger guys were in his division.

Pep didn't do that kind of bs.

Pep didn't have 6 months to train are for fights, cycling on and of steroids and who knows what other peds, getting pain killer shots, getting vitamin shots, being hooked up to a IV, all while forcing his opponents to fight at catchweight, and not allowing them any if the same pre fight benefits he has in his contract.

Comparing the kind if work Floyd and pep did is a joke.

[IR0NFIST]

To answer the question; Yes, Pep would without question be considered a "runner" today.

He fought on the move a lot more than Mayweather ever has.

Your opinion is by no means a definitive answer. The majority of people in this thread (apart from a few Floyd nut-huggers such as yourself) disagree.

[The Gambler1981]

What cracks me up about this sort of thing is that Floyd will eventually be the same way when a lot of stuff fades to most boxing fans who realize over time what they really saw. However, to certain folks it will never die and they will be fighting it until the day they die while those that they used to ridicule will just laugh and smile reminiscing.

[Larry the boss]

Your correct, he pretty much always fought undersized.

Saddler was massive though, when guys like Paul Williams and margarita were in Floyds weight class, he said no thanks, time to retire.

You mean like Mayweather?

[Larry the boss]

That video reveals far more differences than similarities. Based on the 8-minute clip, it's clear that Pep engages more frequently than Floyd, he utilizes masterful head movement to avoid punches as opposed to excessive clinching, his back never touched the ropes and he rarely turtles up or gets backed into a corner.

Name all the fight Floyd clinched in

[IronDanHamza]

Floyd moved up In weight because he had trouble making weight. It was a natural move up, Peps frame didn't have that ability, Just look at him, What's your point here anyway?

Floyd retired when his division was the toughest, there's no denying that, he ran away from it. he didn't want to fight Cotto coming off his win vs mosley, he didn't want Paul Williams or Margarito, he ran when bigger guys were in his division.

Pep didn't do that kind of bs.

Pep didn't have 6 months to train are for fights, cycling on and of steroids and who knows what other peds, getting pain killer shots, getting vitamin shots, being hooked up to a IV, all while forcing his opponents to fight at catchweight, and not allowing them any if the same pre fight benefits he has in his contract.

Comparing the kind if work Floyd and pep did is a joke.

The only weight Floyd struggled to make on moving up was 130.

My point is you're talking literal nonsense.

"Pep moved up in weight to fight Sammy Saddler ( Sammy ) which is the equivalent to Mayweather fighting Golovkin"

One of the most incorrect statments you will ever read.

After being called out on your idiocy you've now started bringing up steroid allegations, moved the goal posts and giving me reasons why Pep didn't move up, erm, you are the one who tried to talk about Pep moving up in weight, no one else.

[Larry the boss]

all of em?

lol,only you could get away with this

You also forgot that pep didn't count with the help of steroids like the other guy did to gain 24 pounds....

show me when Floyd used steroids

[-PBP-]

To answer the question; Yes, Pep would without question be considered a "runner" today.

He fought on the move a lot more than Mayweather ever has.

Exactly.

It's funny. People would rather stick their neck out and look like idiots by discussing a topic they know nothing about than to agree with an argument in favor of Floyd.

[Larry the boss]

Your opinion is by no means a definitive answer. The majority of people in this thread (apart from a few Floyd nut-huggers such as yourself) disagree.