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  • #21
    I'm going to watch Kovalev because he is exciting to watch, but yeah both cards are not good.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Tobi.G View Post
      History told us that these Americans dont give a **** about the cruiserweight-division so i think Duva is right. America had a VERRY good cruiserweight-champ with Cunningham but nobody wanted to see him fight or pay him decent money so he often had to fight overseas. I like Cruiserweight but in america People dont care about it.
      You're forgetting one key point; Jordan Shimmel (19-0 from a little town in Michigan just outside of Grand Rapids).

      Prior to Haymon, no entity with US TV had all that much interest in showcasing cruiserweights.

      As things stand now Shimmell, Flores, Shumenov, Huck, Cunningham, Michael Hunter (who is admittedly a ways off from truly putting his name into the discussions) and others (Tony Bellew fights for Matchroom Sport, whom I believe will be more than happy to let Bellew fight on PBC if the proper opportunity came forward) are all cruiserweights that work with Haymon or are affiliated with Haymon.

      If Haymon is interested, he's got the avenues to showcase the cruiserweights on PBC with no problem; don't put Duva being unable to deliver the opportunity to her fighter on fan disinterest.

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      • #23
        Duva is sabotaging herself. Kov sold like 1,500 vs carapollo and he's fighting an unknown I hope this does atleast 1,500 but I doubt it

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        • #24
          Originally posted by PBP View Post
          It's the HBO way. Cheap opponent that will get knocked out equals good ratings and excitement.

          It's the same mismatches that Haymon does but they get a pass because the fights end in knockouts.
          This mismatch was kind of forced on them, the IBF have set it up. No way out of it unfortunately. I don't like the bout at all.

          Originally posted by aldo5408 View Post
          Duva is sabotaging herself. Kov sold like 1,500 vs carapollo and he's fighting an unknown I hope this does atleast 1,500 but I doubt it
          I agree with that much, Main Events are wasting their time staging Kovalev fights in Atlantic City and Las Vegas, they need to take him to California and see how he fares there.

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          • #25
            I hope they don't start at the same time I don't see how anybody wins when Boxing does this

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            • #26
              Kathy Duva is a horrible promoter imo, so she should just be quiet. It's too bad Kovalev will never leave her because she was the only one that give him a shot. Main Events is doing a horrible job at promoting Sergey. He would be better off with K2, they have done an EXCELLENT job with GGG.
              PBC is doing a better job than she is promoting fighters.
              Last edited by HI-TECH Boxing; 07-05-2015, 01:34 PM.

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              • #27
                All these promotions companies just complain about Haymon and when he puts on a fight the same night one of their guys are fighting. Where does it state that a promoter can't have his guys fight on the same night another fight is happening? They all should stop worrying about Haymon and promote their own fight. But since they are afraid of losing in the attendance area they want to blame Haymon. I never heard or saw this happen when these same promoter 's where undercutting their guy's money unlike with Haymon who is making sure their fighters are getting paid their fair amount of cash and not robbing them.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing View Post
                  Kathy Duva is a horrible promoter imo, so she should just be quiet. It's too bad Kovalev will never leave her because she was the only one that give him a shot. Main Events is doing a horrible job at promoting Sergey. He would be better off with K2, they have done an EXCELLENT job with GGG.
                  I don't really think that's entirely fair.

                  So far she has showcased him on NBC, landed him an exclusive HBO deal, took a risk for his first world title, secured him a unification fight with an atg in Hopkins and PPV fight in Canada with Pascal. He currently has 3 belts, he draws 1m viewers every time he fights.

                  K2 are doing a better job promoting Golovkin, but he has the advantage of being able to keep Mayweather, Canelo and Cotto's name in his mouth which generates a lot of interest.

                  They're both doing a better job than Top Rank with Lomachenko, who sent him in against an overweight fighter in the most corrupt US boxing state. Then they messed up a Walters unification by waiting around having Lomachenko fight two bums. Now he's only fighting 2 times this year.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing View Post
                    Kathy Duva is a horrible promoter imo, so she should just be quiet. It's too bad Kovalev will never leave her because she was the only one that give him a shot. Main Events is doing a horrible job at promoting Sergey. He would be better off with K2, they have done an EXCELLENT job with GGG.
                    No way look at kov resume and ggg resume. you could argue that duva has done more for kov. Shes smartly negotiated and gave hopkins the lionshare just to make the fight happen and give kov a chance.
                    Kov made more money in the pascal fight I think 3 mill than gg has made I his last few fights
                    Last edited by aldo5408; 07-05-2015, 01:37 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Barcham View Post
                      It was much easier to ignore the guy Ward fought who was ranked what? 350?
                      You bring up Ward as if I care about him personally. Yet, you go to hell and back for a guy that was an 80/1 favorite against a guy that's maybe Friday night fights on espn2 material. If you wanna have a serious discussion in regards to boxing and not just ggg or ward I'm all for it. If not, keep it moving



                      Originally posted by PBP View Post
                      It's the HBO way. Cheap opponent that will get knocked out equals good ratings and excitement.

                      It's the same mismatches that Haymon does but they get a pass because the fights end in knockouts.
                      Ahhh that's right. I forget that one guy gets crucified and the other side praised and excused for those mismatches

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