Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
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Why did Dariusz Michalczewski vs Roy Jones Jr not happen?
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Originally posted by richardt View PostEverything stated is based on facts at the time which became common knowledge in the boxing industry.
$5M offer? lol....where were they getting that money from to pay Dariusz? And Roy would be getting how much? Obviously more. So HBO were going to spunk over $10m on a fight between Roy and a guy that you say the American public didn't know? Roy was never a huge PPV draw.
And where is the link to this article which sounds very opinionated and pro Roy.
I don't really know what happened tbh. I believe they were both comfortable making money at home and neither desperately tried to make the fight.
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Originally posted by big_james10 View PostMichalczewski refused to fight anywhere other than Germany. Roy Jones refused to fight outside the United States because of the crap he went through in the Olympics. At the time, Jones was in him prime and was one of the three best fighters P4P in the world. He had the power to dictate the terms of any fight in which he participated.
Germany has a strong reputation for robbing foreign fighters. Jones would have definitely gotten robbed if he had fought in Germany. Jones would have KO'd Michalczewski if they had fought. However, in Germany, the ref would have disqualified Jones for hitting Michalczewski too hard.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostIt's based on what Roy Jones and his manager said.
$5M offer? lol....where were they getting that money from to pay Dariusz? And Roy would be getting how much? Obviously more. So HBO were going to spunk over $10m on a fight between Roy and a guy that you say the American public didn't know? Roy was never a huge PPV draw.
And where is the link to this article which sounds very opinionated and pro Roy.
I don't really know what happened tbh. I believe they were both comfortable making money at home and neither desperately tried to make the fight.
both of them didn't want to leave for whatever reason and offers were made to get DM over, but he didn't accept.
There's also a case for Roy ducking him by refusing to go to Germany.
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Originally posted by richardt View PostI followed the situation over the years VERY closely!
Little known facts:
1. Murad Muhammad went to Germany to negotiate a fight in Germany between the two and DM's promoter and Universum head Klaus Peter Kohl wanted to pay DM double what they were offering Jones. Jones was being offered the usual 5Mill he normally makes, DM was to get either 8Mill or 10Mill.
2. DM was scheduled to fight Telesco on ESPN to build his brand in the US and Marty Mulcahy even showed the scheduling of the fight on his fight schedule on fight news dot com. DM pulled out because there was not enough money. This was during the time when Telesco was on a major role.
3. DM was offered a co main event on HBO but declined due to the money.
4. Klaus Peter Kohl was often unavailable for phone calls, this fact was documented through research by fight news dot com.
An article:
In 2001, Roy's advisor Brad Jacobs, met with Kerry Davis VP for HBO, and they tried desperately to make the fight.
Peter Kohl who was DM's advisor was never available to sit down and discuss terms. He was also never available via phone, and he wouldn't even name a figure to get the ball rolling.
HBO also proposed the idea of a double header to hype the fight. A lot of U.S. fans had hardly seen DM fight, so HBO wanted to put both fighters on the same bill, to stir interest in a fight.
This was turned down by Kohl.
If DM and Kohl had've been serious about a fight, they never would have turned down that opportunity.
Murad Muhammad gave an interview in 2003, and he said that DM was asking for a $6M purse, and he was making between $1-1.5M per fight in Germany.
According to a recent interview with Roy from last June, HBO actually offered him DM $5M, and he turned it down.
All you have to do, is go and look at DM's resume, to see how serious he was about fighting the likes of Roy, Tarver and Harding etc. He never left his comfort zone in Germany. He was happy defending his WBO belt for decent money against C class fighters, some of which had already been beaten easily by Roy.
If DM and Kohl had wanted Roy bad enough, they'd have agreed to the double header, which was a great idea, and then afterwards they'd have fought Roy.
Instead they turned down the opportunity to fight Hall, Harmon and De Grandis.
That's how bad they wanted Roy.
They turned down $5M for Roy, to fight Joey De Grandis for $1-1.5M.
DM was all talk. His resume tells you what his intentions were. The best fighter in the world shouldn't have had to have gone to Germany in 2001.
Now you also give an opinion which I have bolded.
Yes HBO offered DM a slot on a Jones undercard to less Money than a defense in Germany would have given. Furthermore there was no guarantee that Jones subsequently would fight DM. Great idea huh?
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