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  • Why did Dariusz Michalczewski vs Roy Jones Jr not happen?

    Both guys were monsters who were in their prime at pretty much the same time, why exactly didn't it take place and who would have won.
    52
    Roy's Fault
    21.15%
    11
    Dariusz' Fault
    57.69%
    30
    RJJ wins
    71.15%
    37
    DM wins
    5.77%
    3

  • #2
    They couldn't set their championship egos aside.
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    • #3
      Name too hard to spell, unmarketable, how did you even spell that

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      • #4
        Michalczewski refused to fight anywhere other than Germany. Roy Jones refused to fight outside the United States because of the crap he went through in the Olympics. At the time, Jones was in him prime and was one of the three best fighters P4P in the world. He had the power to dictate the terms of any fight in which he participated.


        Germany has a strong reputation for robbing foreign fighters. Jones would have definitely gotten robbed if he had fought in Germany. Jones would have KO'd Michalczewski if they had fought. However, in Germany, the ref would have disqualified Jones for hitting Michalczewski too hard.

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        • #5
          I followed the situation over the years VERY closely!

          Little known facts:

          1. Murad Muhammad went to Germany to negotiate a fight in Germany between the two and DM's promoter and Universum head Klaus Peter Kohl wanted to pay DM double what they were offering Jones. Jones was being offered the usual 5Mill he normally makes, DM was to get either 8Mill or 10Mill.

          2. DM was scheduled to fight Telesco on ESPN to build his brand in the US and Marty Mulcahy even showed the scheduling of the fight on his fight schedule on fight news dot com. DM pulled out because there was not enough money. This was during the time when Telesco was on a major role.

          3. DM was offered a co main event on HBO but declined due to the money.

          4. Klaus Peter Kohl was often unavailable for phone calls, this fact was documented through research by fight news dot com.

          An article:


          In 2001, Roy's advisor Brad Jacobs, met with Kerry Davis VP for HBO, and they tried desperately to make the fight.

          Peter Kohl who was DM's advisor was never available to sit down and discuss terms. He was also never available via phone, and he wouldn't even name a figure to get the ball rolling.

          HBO also proposed the idea of a double header to hype the fight. A lot of U.S. fans had hardly seen DM fight, so HBO wanted to put both fighters on the same bill, to stir interest in a fight.

          This was turned down by Kohl.

          If DM and Kohl had've been serious about a fight, they never would have turned down that opportunity.

          Murad Muhammad gave an interview in 2003, and he said that DM was asking for a $6M purse, and he was making between $1-1.5M per fight in Germany.

          According to a recent interview with Roy from last June, HBO actually offered him DM $5M, and he turned it down.

          All you have to do, is go and look at DM's resume, to see how serious he was about fighting the likes of Roy, Tarver and Harding etc. He never left his comfort zone in Germany. He was happy defending his WBO belt for decent money against C class fighters, some of which had already been beaten easily by Roy.

          If DM and Kohl had wanted Roy bad enough, they'd have agreed to the double header, which was a great idea, and then afterwards they'd have fought Roy.

          Instead they turned down the opportunity to fight Hall, Harmon and De Grandis.

          That's how bad they wanted Roy.

          They turned down $5M for Roy, to fight Joey De Grandis for $1-1.5M.

          DM was all talk. His resume tells you what his intentions were. The best fighter in the world shouldn't have had to have gone to Germany in 2001.
          Last edited by richardt; 06-28-2015, 09:08 PM.

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          • #6
            ^^^^^^^^^^

            Great summation....

            Darius Michwhateverthe*** was a fraud who was happy being the big fish in his small pond.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ellerbe Exposed View Post
              Name too hard to spell, unmarketable, how did you even spell that
              Lol I honestly didnt.

              Originally posted by richardt View Post
              I followed the situation over the years VERY closely!

              Little known facts:

              1. Murad Muhammad went to Germany to negotiate a fight in Germany between the two and DM's promoter and Universum head Klaus Peter Kohl wanted to pay DM double what they were offering Jones. Jones was being offered the usual 5Mill he normally makes, DM was to get either 8Mill or 10Mill.

              2. DM was scheduled to fight Telesco on ESPN to build his brand in the US and Marty Mulcahy even showed the scheduling of the fight on his fight schedule on fight news dot com. DM pulled out because there was not enough money. This was during the time when Telesco was on a major role.

              3. DM was offered a co main event on HBO but declined due to the money.

              4. Klaus Peter Kohl was often unavailable for phone calls, this fact was documented through research by fight news dot com.

              An article:


              In 2001, Roy's advisor Brad Jacobs, met with Kerry Davis VP for HBO, and they tried desperately to make the fight.

              Peter Kohl who was DM's advisor was never available to sit down and discuss terms. He was also never available via phone, and he wouldn't even name a figure to get the ball rolling.

              HBO also proposed the idea of a double header to hype the fight. A lot of U.S. fans had hardly seen DM fight, so HBO wanted to put both fighters on the same bill, to stir interest in a fight.

              This was turned down by Kohl.

              If DM and Kohl had've been serious about a fight, they never would have turned down that opportunity.

              Murad Muhammad gave an interview in 2003, and he said that DM was asking for a $6M purse, and he was making between $1-1.5M per fight in Germany.

              According to a recent interview with Roy from last June, HBO actually offered him DM $5M, and he turned it down.

              All you have to do, is go and look at DM's resume, to see how serious he was about fighting the likes of Roy, Tarver and Harding etc. He never left his comfort zone in Germany. He was happy defending his WBO belt for decent money against C class fighters, some of which had already been beaten easily by Roy.

              If DM and Kohl had wanted Roy bad enough, they'd have agreed to the double header, which was a great idea, and then afterwards they'd have fought Roy.

              Instead they turned down the opportunity to fight Hall, Harmon and De Grandis.

              That's how bad they wanted Roy.

              They turned down $5M for Roy, to fight Joey De Grandis for $1-1.5M.

              DM was all talk. His resume tells you what his intentions were. The best fighter in the world shouldn't have had to have gone to Germany in 2001.
              Thanks great summary, I think RJJ would teach him a thing or two.

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              • #8
                Probably the only fight in Roy's career where you could accuse him of ducking someone, but I wouldn't say that. The main reason this fight didn't happen was because each of them had no desire to go across the pond to fight each other.

                However, Michalczewski also asked for much more than what he rightfully deserved and rejected multiple other opportunities to fight in the states on HBO to build the fight between him and Roy. He was offered $5million to fight Roy in the states but asked for $6million to fight Roy in Germany.

                Just wasn't going to happen. You can also look at Michalczewski's resume and digest for yourself how willing he was to take up the top names.

                However, he was a good fighter and this was a massive fight in the late 90s.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by richardt View Post
                  I followed the situation over the years VERY closely!

                  Little known facts:

                  1. Murad Muhammad went to Germany to negotiate a fight in Germany between the two and DM's promoter and Universum head Klaus Peter Kohl wanted to pay DM double what they were offering Jones. Jones was being offered the usual 5Mill he normally makes, DM was to get either 8Mill or 10Mill.

                  2. DM was scheduled to fight Telesco on ESPN to build his brand in the US and Marty Mulcahy even showed the scheduling of the fight on his fight schedule on fight news dot com. DM pulled out because there was not enough money. This was during the time when Telesco was on a major role.

                  3. DM was offered a co main event on HBO but declined due to the money.

                  4. Klaus Peter Kohl was often unavailable for phone calls, this fact was documented through research by fight news dot com.

                  An article:


                  In 2001, Roy's advisor Brad Jacobs, met with Kerry Davis VP for HBO, and they tried desperately to make the fight.

                  Peter Kohl who was DM's advisor was never available to sit down and discuss terms. He was also never available via phone, and he wouldn't even name a figure to get the ball rolling.

                  HBO also proposed the idea of a double header to hype the fight. A lot of U.S. fans had hardly seen DM fight, so HBO wanted to put both fighters on the same bill, to stir interest in a fight.

                  This was turned down by Kohl.

                  If DM and Kohl had've been serious about a fight, they never would have turned down that opportunity.

                  Murad Muhammad gave an interview in 2003, and he said that DM was asking for a $6M purse, and he was making between $1-1.5M per fight in Germany.

                  According to a recent interview with Roy from last June, HBO actually offered him DM $5M, and he turned it down.

                  All you have to do, is go and look at DM's resume, to see how serious he was about fighting the likes of Roy, Tarver and Harding etc. He never left his comfort zone in Germany. He was happy defending his WBO belt for decent money against C class fighters, some of which had already been beaten easily by Roy.

                  If DM and Kohl had wanted Roy bad enough, they'd have agreed to the double header, which was a great idea, and then afterwards they'd have fought Roy.

                  Instead they turned down the opportunity to fight Hall, Harmon and De Grandis.

                  That's how bad they wanted Roy.

                  They turned down $5M for Roy, to fight Joey De Grandis for $1-1.5M.

                  DM was all talk. His resume tells you what his intentions were. The best fighter in the world shouldn't have had to have gone to Germany in 2001.
                  Didn't see this post lol. But what he said.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by richardt View Post
                    I followed the situation over the years VERY closely!

                    Little known facts:

                    1. Murad Muhammad went to Germany to negotiate a fight in Germany between the two and DM's promoter and Universum head Klaus Peter Kohl wanted to pay DM double what they were offering Jones. Jones was being offered the usual 5Mill he normally makes, DM was to get either 8Mill or 10Mill.

                    2. DM was scheduled to fight Telesco on ESPN to build his brand in the US and Marty Mulcahy even showed the scheduling of the fight on his fight schedule on fight news dot com. DM pulled out because there was not enough money. This was during the time when Telesco was on a major role.

                    3. DM was offered a co main event on HBO but declined due to the money.

                    4. Klaus Peter Kohl was often unavailable for phone calls, this fact was documented through research by fight news dot com.

                    An article:


                    In 2001, Roy's advisor Brad Jacobs, met with Kerry Davis VP for HBO, and they tried desperately to make the fight.

                    Peter Kohl who was DM's advisor was never available to sit down and discuss terms. He was also never available via phone, and he wouldn't even name a figure to get the ball rolling.

                    HBO also proposed the idea of a double header to hype the fight. A lot of U.S. fans had hardly seen DM fight, so HBO wanted to put both fighters on the same bill, to stir interest in a fight.

                    This was turned down by Kohl.

                    If DM and Kohl had've been serious about a fight, they never would have turned down that opportunity.

                    Murad Muhammad gave an interview in 2003, and he said that DM was asking for a $6M purse, and he was making between $1-1.5M per fight in Germany.

                    According to a recent interview with Roy from last June, HBO actually offered him DM $5M, and he turned it down.

                    All you have to do, is go and look at DM's resume, to see how serious he was about fighting the likes of Roy, Tarver and Harding etc. He never left his comfort zone in Germany. He was happy defending his WBO belt for decent money against C class fighters, some of which had already been beaten easily by Roy.

                    If DM and Kohl had wanted Roy bad enough, they'd have agreed to the double header, which was a great idea, and then afterwards they'd have fought Roy.

                    Instead they turned down the opportunity to fight Hall, Harmon and De Grandis.

                    That's how bad they wanted Roy.

                    They turned down $5M for Roy, to fight Joey De Grandis for $1-1.5M.

                    DM was all talk. His resume tells you what his intentions were. The best fighter in the world shouldn't have had to have gone to Germany in 2001.
                    ..............

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