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  • #31
    Originally posted by Kilrain View Post
    Like Calzaghe would have taken as risky a fight as GGG during his career. Who even cares what he thinks now? The guy is an irrelevance. Talks about Froch constantly. If he wants to come back and fight Froch, he should get in training. He's only five years older than Carl, remember.
    I seem to remember him fighting a guy who the Yanks were labelling the Super Middleweight Mike Tyson. Not that he was....but he was certainly seen as a risky fight where 90% of boxing experts, not just fans, were predicting he'd get knocked out.

    And he doesn't talk about Froch constantly. If you look above, it's a lengthy interview with Radio Raheem about all things current in boxing.

    Bit rich for someone to say Calzaghe talks about Froch constantly considering their history.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Ray* View Post
      It's all about Motivation, nothing to do about losing in front of his countrymen... You want a motivated fighter in the ring not a fighter who is just there for the pay cheque, Froch does NOT seem motivated anymore, he has been talking about retirement like 2/3 fights back. He does NOT have to fight anyone and he has fought bigger and better fighters than GGG, Joe is definitely salty here again because he knows he avoided Froch and that would alway eat him up why? Because the person he didn't want to give an opportunity made one for himself and basically bettered Joe C resume.
      I'm not sure he did, there's an argument of course but the funny thing is I don't think even beating Golovkin would put Froch definitively ahead of Calzaghe because GGG is a MW with no record at 160. He'd really need to beat Ward.

      Agree with you on Froch and motivation.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by R.I.P Chico View Post
        Calzaghe needs to stop all this **** with Froch. He could have fought him, but chose not to. His record is nowhere near that of Froch's, although i actually believe Calzaghe would have decisioned Froch. He didn't and Froch has fought at a higher level and earn his stripes in the states. Calzaghe is bitter about that, but needs to let it go.
        The opportunities weren't really there for Calzaghe. Froch had the luxury of the Super 6, which enabled him to consistently get top fighters in he ring.

        During his younger years, Calzaghe was high risk/low reward for the likes of Hopkins, Jones and Toney. He had to wait until his 30s to unify with the undefeated champions and move up to fight Hopkins and Jones.

        Even so, Calzaghe was undefeated and I'd still rate his top 5 wins above Froch's.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Cinci Champ View Post
          calzaghe while very good never really took risks either. i mean lets be honest he acts like he beat hopkins and roy jones in their prime when they were no where near it
          I accept Jones but Hopkins?! Come on - look at what he achieved after the Calzaghe fight.

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          • #35
            [QUOTE=el***;15818781]
            Originally posted by petero View Post
            Some people are just racist ******s that can't accept the fact that Calzage
            is an all time great. 20 title defences against bums? And Hopkins, Jones
            were "old", F-OFF. Jeff Lacy a 3 to 1 favorite, F-OFF etc etc.[/QUOTE

            yeah its cause cal***gi is white. It has nothing to do with the way that he openly ducked RJJ in the 90s, nothing at all.

            Go google ca***gi's direct quotes, both from him openly admitting RJJ was
            "too good" to fight in the 90s to his pre fight quotes vs shot RJJ about how he knew there was no longer any risk.
            Steroids can do wonderful things...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
              Because Chad Dawson had like 4 fans and would have made no money.

              It's nothing in comparison to what Froch would be getting to fight Golovkin who is HBO's golden boy with a burgeoning, although idiotic, fanbase.

              I don't think it's rich. As he said, he retired as undisputed super-middleweight champion and Ring Magazine light heavyweight champion. Something Froch has never done. You don't do that without taking some risks.
              Chad Dawson would have been one of his best wins.

              Not that Dawsons and overly good fighter but still.

              Wouldn't have been massive money but it's a fight the fans wanted.

              It is rich, clearly. The guy literally wouldn't risk fighting Kelly Pavlik or Chad. Laugh all you want but that was a fight people wanted to see.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                Chad Dawson would have been one of his best wins.

                Not that Dawsons and overly good fighter but still.

                Wouldn't have been massive money but it's a fight the fans wanted.

                It is rich, clearly. The guy literally wouldn't risk fighting Kelly Pavlik or Chad. Laugh all you want but that was a fight people wanted to see.
                What fans wanted that fight? A few hardcores? Chad Dawson had only just proven he was better than a 40 year old Glen Johnson, I thought he lost the first fight....it was hardly Froch-Golovkin levels of demand for that fight.

                He didn't fight Pavlik cos he got 10 million to fight Roy Jones. The same reason Froch was chasing Chavez jr so much instead of Golovkin.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                  What fans wanted that fight? A few hardcores? Chad Dawson had only just proven he was better than a 40 year old Glen Johnson, I thought he lost the first fight....it was hardly Froch-Golovkin levels of demand for that fight.

                  He didn't fight Pavlik cos he got 10 million to fight Roy Jones. The same reason Froch was chasing Chavez jr so much instead of Golovkin.
                  So why does he have to fight one or the other? Why can't he fight both? Pavlik would have made him some money and that's a fight people actually wanted to see.

                  Dawson not as much but fans still wanted it.

                  No qualms with fighting Roy Jones corpse because it was a big pay day can't knock him for that but that fight was zero risk.

                  No reason he couldn't have fought both Pavlik and Dawson but he didn't want to risk it. Hence; rich coming from him.

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                  • #39
                    Calzaghe had legit skills, but hes a complete underachiever.

                    They refused to come to the U.S. For the longest time and fought nothing but complete bums.

                    He even ducked Glen Johnson multiple times. For Christ sake he wouldn't even fight pavlik, Taylor, or Dawson.

                    He barely beat Hopkins or jones, he just out punched old fighters, Neither win was impressive. For his level of ability, the guy is most famous for underachieving in my eyes.

                    I do give him major props for his win against prime Kessler though, he doesn't get enough respect for that one. Calzaghe showed the total package that fight.
                    Last edited by AddiX; 06-24-2015, 07:31 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      So why does he have to fight one or the other? Why can't he fight both? Pavlik would have made him some money and that's a fight people actually wanted to see.

                      Dawson not as much but fans still wanted it.

                      No qualms with fighting Roy Jones corpse because it was a big pay day can't knock him for that but that fight was zero risk.

                      No reason he couldn't have fought both Pavlik and Dawson but he didn't want to risk it. Hence; rich coming from him.
                      My guess it because he was 37 years old and was thinking about retirement like Carl Froch is at the same age?

                      He pretty much said he'd decided on retiring before the Bernard Hopkins fight because of his constant hand injuries. He knew the next fight would be his swansong and wanted to get the biggest amount of money available like Carl Froch.

                      Kelly Pavlik then lost to Hopkins horrendously and killed that fight anyway. And no one is coming out of retirement for Chad Dawson

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