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  • Lazakill
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    #141
    Originally posted by SnakeVen0m
    He said he wasn't going to persue Floyd anymore then the following week went back to doing his begging thing. He has not faced the right opponents at WW to earn a fight with Floyd. Hell I can't even remember the last time Floyd fought someone who wasn't a champion or coming off a good performance. Khant looked fragile and weak against Algieri. An opponent he said he was going to shine against and "make a statement" haha
    Tell me, who do you have to face to 'earn' a fight with Floyd? Please tell me who Ortiz and Guerrero fought that so badly 'earnt' them this fight with Floyd Mayweather. Last I know, it was Berto that they had won against - are you suggesting he was worthy enough of earning them a fight? OK, LOL.

    Khan, since last May has come off two impressive dominant victories over Collazo and Alexander and looked OK, albeit fragile against Algieri. That's more than enough, considering who all these 'top welterweights' are fighting.

    Let's take a look at that actually.

    Brook (last three opponents) - Porter, Jo Jo Dan, Gavin

    Thurman (last three opponents) - Guerrero, Bundu, Diaz

    WOW, they sure do stand out a hell of a lot more, don't they! LOL.

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    • alexKO
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      #142
      Originally posted by Salim_Shady
      You seemto have misintepreted my post, the knockdown was the only good success Diaz had, Khan clearly won the fight whether you believe it was by 1-3 points.
      That's not my score, it was the judges. The fight was close, as was the Porter-Diaz fight. Diaz must have done more than just knock Khan down to win 5 rounds on two judges scorecards.

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      • alexKO
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        #143
        Originally posted by Lazakill
        Tell me, who do you have to face to 'earn' a fight with Floyd? Please tell me who Ortiz and Guerrero fought that so badly 'earnt' them this fight with Floyd Mayweather. Last I know, it was Berto that they had won against - are you suggesting he was worthy enough of earning them a fight? OK, LOL.

        Khan, since last May has come off two impressive dominant victories over Collazo and Alexander and looked OK, albeit fragile against Algieri. That's more than enough, considering who all these 'top welterweights' are fighting.

        Let's take a look at that actually.

        Brook (last three opponents) - Porter, Jo Jo Dan, Gavin

        Thurman (last three opponents) - Guerrero, Bundu, Diaz

        WOW, they sure do stand out a hell of a lot more, don't they! LOL.
        You're forgetting something very important - both Ortiz and Guerrero held welterweight world titles when Floyd faced them. Khann is unlikely to hold a welterweight world title as he's ducking Brook and Mayweather holds the rest!

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        • Lazakill
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          #144
          Originally posted by alexKO
          Khan moved up because he always blames his knockout defeats on being weight-drained as he did with Prescott, another brutal knockout defeat he hasn't avenged.

          As for Garcia, why does he have any obligation to chase I guy he brutalised up in weight for a rematch?!
          Khan was massively drained at 135. You only need a brain to figure that one out. Again, at 140, he struggled. I'm not blaming his losses on that by the way, i'm just stating facts that he struggled on the weight. His losses are down to what he did in the ring.

          Do you even have any idea where Prescott is at this time in his career? Do I really need to bring up the old 'so Pacquiao should avenge his losses against Singsurat, etc'?

          So why does Khan need to chase him down at this moment in time? He's struggled with the weight so why on earth should he now starve himself down in order to chase a rematch so badly? You're making no sense.

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            #145
            Originally posted by alexKO
            You're forgetting something very important - both Ortiz and Guerrero held welterweight world titles when Floyd faced them. Khann is unlikely to hold a welterweight world title as he's ducking Brook and Mayweather holds the rest!
            I didn't know how much 'world titles' meant to you. From what I know, the consensus on these world titles and these governing bodies are that most of these titles are farcicle, along with their rankings and such. Strictly speaking on Mayweather's words 'they just collect dust'. You really think he gives a **** about belts?

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            • alexKO
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              #146
              Originally posted by Lazakill
              Khan was massively drained at 135. You only need a brain to figure that one out. Again, at 140, he struggled. I'm not blaming his losses on that by the way, i'm just stating facts that he struggled on the weight. His losses are down to what he did in the ring.

              Do you even have any idea where Prescott is at this time in his career? Do I really need to bring up the old 'so Pacquiao should avenge his losses against Singsurat, etc'?

              So why does Khan need to chase him down at this moment in time? He's struggled with the weight so why on earth should he now starve himself down in order to chase a rematch so badly? You're making no sense.
              The fact Prescott is nowhere to be seen now only serves to pur Khan down further. A rematch would be pointless now bt for a number of years, Prescott called Khan out and heard nothing back.

              As for Garcia, Khan fought him at 140 and Garcia has no obligation to move up for a rematch. However Khan did have an obligation to remain at 140 if he truly wanted the rematch.

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              • alexKO
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                #147
                Originally posted by Lazakill
                I didn't know how much 'world titles' meant to you. From what I know, the consensus on these world titles and these governing bodies are that most of these titles are farcicle, along with their rankings and such. Strictly speaking on Mayweather's words 'they just collect dust'. You really think he gives a **** about belts?
                *Farcical
                I'm not saying belts are the be all and end all but the world title is what gave Mayweather justification for choosing his opponents.

                What justification does he have for choosing a guy who has 2 brutal knockout losses at a lower weight that he hasn't avenged and not one credible win at Mayweather's weight?

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                • talz
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by alexKO
                  The fact Prescott is nowhere to be seen now only serves to pur Khan down further. A rematch would be pointless now bt for a number of years, Prescott called Khan out and heard nothing back.

                  As for Garcia, Khan fought him at 140 and Garcia has no obligation to move up for a rematch. However Khan did have an obligation to remain at 140 if he truly wanted the rematch.
                  Thats because Prescott just kept losing and losing and there was no reason for Khan to fight him, the guy has 7 losses and is totally irrelevant. Garcia refused the rematch multiple times.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by alexKO
                    *Farcical
                    I'm not saying belts are the be all and end all but the world title is what gave Mayweather justification for choosing his opponents.

                    What justification does he have for choosing a guy who has 2 brutal knockout losses at a lower weight that he hasn't avenged and not one credible win at Mayweather's weight?
                    Belts are irrelevant to floyd hence he's vacating them all when he makes the right matches between haymon fighters. Well considering Prescott kept losing and Garcia kept refusing rematches, there isn't much Khan can do about that can he? Garcia has been gifted a few times now and there is no doubt Khan takes him apart at 147. Floyd cares about money, Khan brings abundance of that and he is the only one left that isn't tied up either.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      Let's look at it then...

                      Khan's last 5 fights:

                      - Algieri (not top 10 or a world champion)
                      - Alexander (recent champ, #9)
                      - Collazo (not top 10 or a world champion)
                      - Molina (not top 10 or a world champion)
                      - Julio Diaz (not top 10 or a world champion)

                      Brook's last 5 fights:

                      - Gavin (not top 10 or a world champion)
                      - Porter (top 5 and world champion)
                      - Senchenko (Recent world champion)
                      - Jo Jo Dan (Not top 10 but Mandatory)
                      - Alvaro Robles (not top 10 or world champion)

                      How has Brook been disrespectful? You are the one being disrespectful!

                      .... Khan, you're deluded and you're ducking like a girl. How about you fight a top 5 guy to earn Brook, because right now you've barely earned the right to fight him and you haven't proved yourself in the WW division because you're still to fight a genuine top welterweight unlike Brook.
                      What are you talking about? Julio Diaz, Algerie, and Collazo were former world champs and that still counts....Khan should still take Brook serious when he beat Porter.

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