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  • Originally posted by Lazakill View Post
    He lost to P4P #1, just gave Berto, a world title holder, his first loss. Then quit against Lopez. Besides that, and his overall accomplishments and how he was ranked.. yes, he was a world class win no matter what way you look at it. Quite frankly, it's you who would be delusional to think otherwise. It's funny how you bring up Ortiz' losses before that yet believe Collazo's prime was when he lost to all three of them opponents (Berto, Hatton, Mosley)
    Collazo's prime was clearly when he was fighting the likes of Hatton. He lost all of his big fights purely because he was never that good. He was a solid fighter who lost every time he stepped up.

    His only good win is over a part-time boxer/actor Victor Ortiz who was coming out of retirement and off back to back KO defeats.

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    • Originally posted by Lazakill View Post
      Because he's gunning for Floyd Mayweather if you haven't caught on.
      He's been gunning for Floyd Mayweather for 2 years based on wins 5 years ago at a lower weight prior to a brutal knockout loss to Garcia. That hasn't been avenged, I might add.

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      • Originally posted by alexKO View Post
        You said it yourself - Ortiz quit against Lopez and quit again against Collazo. He's a quitter whose scalp is meaningless at world level. Would you give Brook credit if he fought Lopez and scored a UD? Would you bollocks.

        As for Collazo's prime, two of those three are future hall of famers and Berto at the time was a very credible world champion.
        LOL, how can you be justifying Collazo's prime and calling up Berto saying he's a very credible world champion and at the same time be degrading Ortiz, who gave that 'very credible world champion' his first loss and took his belt?

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        • Originally posted by Lazakill View Post
          Because he's gunning for Floyd Mayweather if you haven't caught on.
          He said he wasn't going to persue Floyd anymore then the following week went back to doing his begging thing. He has not faced the right opponents at WW to earn a fight with Floyd. Hell I can't even remember the last time Floyd fought someone who wasn't a champion or coming off a good performance. Khant looked fragile and weak against Algieri. An opponent he said he was going to shine against and "make a statement" haha

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          • Originally posted by alexKO View Post
            He's been gunning for Floyd Mayweather for 2 years based on wins 5 years ago at a lower weight prior to a brutal knockout loss to Garcia. That hasn't been avenged, I might add.
            Because its very easy to avenge a defeat when you're both in different weight divisions, aren't you. That was on Garcia to move up, and three years on from his win over Khan, he's only moving up now.

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            • Originally posted by Salim_Shady View Post
              Besides the KD, Khan clearly beat Diaz and it wasn't debatable. Whereas Porter's fight could genuinely have gone either way and many feel he lost.
              He won in his hometown by 1,2 and 3 points.
              Besides the knockdowns, Algieri lost 120-108 to Pacquiao. Unfortunately, knockdowns are part of a fight.

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              • Everything Khan said bout Brook, Mayweather could say about him.

                Khan actually seems to be scared, saying, just point blank that he won't fight him. Khan has a number of good wins but he hasn't beaten any top fighters at 147. More of a top 10-15 list, but no one like Thurman or Porter. Maidana win at 140 was good. But you can't beat Collazo and Algieri over past yr and make it as if your competition is soooo much better than Brooks. Good wins, but nothing overly impressive. In fact, Brooks win over Porter is more impressive than any Khan win at 147

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                • Originally posted by Lazakill View Post
                  LOL, how can you be justifying Collazo's prime and calling up Berto saying he's a very credible world champion and at the same time be degrading Ortiz, who gave that 'very credible world champion' his first loss and took his belt?
                  Because I'm degrading the recent, post-Mayweather version of Ortiz.

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                  • Originally posted by alexKO View Post
                    He won in his hometown by 1,2 and 3 points.
                    Besides the knockdowns, Algieri lost 120-108 to Pacquiao. Unfortunately, knockdowns are part of a fight.
                    You seemto have misintepreted my post, the knockdown was the only good success Diaz had, Khan clearly won the fight whether you believe it was by 1-3 points.

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                    • Originally posted by Lazakill View Post
                      Because its very easy to avenge a defeat when you're both in different weight divisions, aren't you. That was on Garcia to move up, and three years on from his win over Khan, he's only moving up now.
                      Khan moved up because he always blames his knockout defeats on being weight-drained as he did with Prescott, another brutal knockout defeat he hasn't avenged.

                      As for Garcia, why does he have any obligation to chase I guy he brutalised up in weight for a rematch?!

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