Comments Thread For: Khan: No Pay For Brook, Fought Bums His Whole Career

[Lazakill]

So do you think Collazo was in his prime and that a win over Ortiz is actually noteworthy at world level?

Did you watch Alexander vs Porter?

And finally, did Algieri get dropped 8 or 9 times across 2 fights and lose 120-102 to Pacquiao?

I'm talking facts.

I now challenge you to degrade Porter in the same way.

Please explain Collazo's 'prime' because last I recall, there has never been a significant period of where Collazo ever dominated. He fought top echelon fighters and always gave them very close fights (Hatton, Berto). His best win was Ortiz, so unless you have your own way of gauging a fighter being in their 'prime', then that's on you. But I go based on his last performance, and that was his best career performance against a high ranked fighter (at the time).

Got dropped yes, but did he go on to closely beat that beast everyone was calling Provodnikov? Yeah, he did. Also had another very good win over Emmanuel Taylor.

I did watch Alexander-Porter. Khan looked much cleaner and thoroughly dominated him (styles make fights?)

Again, for Porter...

Arguably lost against Julio Diaz the first time, beat Devon Alexander (one of his best wins), knocked out a washed up Malignaggi (i'm doing what you're doing here), got outclassed by Brook and now beat Broner who is an idiot and not very good in general.

So in terms of his wins.. Alexander & Broner. Something really to write home about aren't they then.

[Lazakill]

The same guy who was 0-2 (2KO) in his last two? "massive"



Porter outweighs those three alone. Let alone with Senchenko, Hatton, Lovemore Ndou, Jackiewich, Carson Jones etc.

Not saying those guys are world beaters but neither are the three you mentioned in all honesty.

LOL!! Yeah, I think its you who needs to stop right there. ****ing hell...

[gamefrk]

So did Brook not fight Porter during his whole career? Was that fight part of his pre-career or post-career?

That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Now that you've realized that Khan was referring to Brook's whole career.. you can go beyond those 3 year 5 year limits you've been setting up to compare opponents & take a look at the guys Khan faced.

[alexKO]

Please explain Collazo's 'prime' because last I recall, there has never been a significant period of where Collazo ever dominated. He fought top echelon fighters and always gave them very close fights (Hatton, Berto). His best win was Ortiz, so unless you have your own way of gauging a fighter being in their 'prime', then that's on you. But I go based on his last performance, and that was his best career performance against a high ranked fighter (at the time).

Got dropped yes, but did he go on to closely beat that beast everyone was calling Provodnikov? Yeah, he did. Also had another very good win over Emmanuel Taylor.

I did watch Alexander-Porter. Khan looked much cleaner and thoroughly dominated him (styles make fights?)

Again, for Porter...

Arguably lost against Julio Diaz the first time, beat Devon Alexander (one of his best wins), knocked out a washed up Malignaggi (i'm doing what you're doing here), got outclassed by Brook and now beat Broner who is an idiot and not very good in general.

So in terms of his wins.. Alexander & Broner. Something really to write home about aren't they then.

I'd regard Collazo's prime as being around the time of the Hatton, Mosley and Berto fights. The Berto fight was in 2009, he then fought a string of relative unknowns before facing Ortiz who, as someone mentioned earlier, was coming of back to back knockout defeats to Mayweather and then Josesito Lopez. If you genuinely believe that is a credible win at world level then you are undoubtedly clinically delusional.

And please make your mind up re Julio Diaz. Both Khan and Porter bad close fights with him so whatever you say about one, it applies to the other!

And yes, Malignaggi was/is washed up.

[alexKO]

That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Now that you've realized that Khan was referring to Brook's whole career.. you can go beyond those 3 year 5 year limits you've been setting up to compare opponents & take a look at the guys Khan faced.

No one is denying that Khan has faced better opponents in the past. But both are currently campaigning at 147 and in the 3 years Khan has been at 147, Brook has faced better opposition.

[Lazakill]

I'd regard Collazo's prime as being around the time of the Hatton, Mosley and Berto fights. The Berto fight was in 2009, he then fought a string of relative unknowns before facing Ortiz who, as someone mentioned earlier, was coming of back to back knockout defeats to Mayweather and then Josesito Lopez. If you genuinely believe that is a credible win at world level then you are undoubtedly clinically delusional.

And please make your mind up re Julio Diaz. Both Khan and Porter bad close fights with him so whatever you say about one, it applies to the other!

And yes, Malignaggi was/is washed up.

He lost to P4P #1, just gave Berto, a world title holder, his first loss. Then quit against Lopez. Besides that, and his overall accomplishments and how he was ranked.. yes, he was a world class win no matter what way you look at it. Quite frankly, it's you who would be delusional to think otherwise. It's funny how you bring up Ortiz' losses before that yet believe Collazo's prime was when he lost to all three of them opponents (Berto, Hatton, Mosley)

[SnakeVen0m]

Khant is deathly afraid of Brook. There is absolutely no excuse to why he's not facing him. Absolutely none. If someone can come up with one please tell me.

[alexKO]

He lost to P4P #1, just gave Berto, a world title holder, his first loss. Then quit against Lopez. Besides that, and his overall accomplishments and how he was ranked.. yes, he was a world class win no matter what way you look at it. Quite frankly, it's you who would be delusional to think otherwise. It's funny how you bring up Ortiz' losses before that yet believe Collazo's prime was when he lost to all three of them opponents (Berto, Hatton, Mosley)

You said it yourself - Ortiz quit against Lopez and quit again against Collazo. He's a quitter whose scalp is meaningless at world level. Would you give Brook credit if he fought Lopez and scored a UD? Would you bollocks.

As for Collazo's prime, two of those three are future hall of famers and Berto at the time was a very credible world champion.

[Lazakill]

Khant is deathly afraid of Brook. There is absolutely no excuse to why he's not facing him. Absolutely none. If someone can come up with one please tell me.

Because he's gunning for Floyd Mayweather if you haven't caught on.

[SalimShady1212]

I'd regard Collazo's prime as being around the time of the Hatton, Mosley and Berto fights. The Berto fight was in 2009, he then fought a string of relative unknowns before facing Ortiz who, as someone mentioned earlier, was coming of back to back knockout defeats to Mayweather and then Josesito Lopez. If you genuinely believe that is a credible win at world level then you are undoubtedly clinically delusional.

And please make your mind up re Julio Diaz. Both Khan and Porter bad close fights with him so whatever you say about one, it applies to the other!

And yes, Malignaggi was/is washed up.

Besides the KD, Khan clearly beat Diaz and it wasn't debatable. Whereas Porter's fight could genuinely have gone either way and many feel he lost.