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  • #81
    Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
    So why doesn't GGG (whos been begging for PPV fights vs cotto, canelo, floyd, froch & chavez jr) just fight ward and get it over with???

    Oh say what theres not enough money? GGG is the "A" side? He brings the fans? He brings the "excitement"?

    They can fight Ward on PPV. It'll be GGG & Ward's 1st ppv.

    "ward wants too much money doe"

    Oh so its about money then the whole time? Not that they want to show who's the best right?

    "You dont say that for Cotto doe. He got the belt doe. He a coward fight GGG waaahhhh waaaahhhh waaaahhh"

    Take ya choice... money or glory
    no, ward-golovkin would not be a pay-per-view right now. so how are hbo going to justify paying a ppv level purse for a fight that likely does <2m viewers on normal hbo? it's not that i don't want the fight to happen, it's just that i can see that it is not viable until golovkin and/or ward increase their profile. golovkin claims to have approached hbo about the fight in the past and they said it was one for the future

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    • #82
      Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
      So why are GGG entertaining a fight with Froch & Chavez JR???

      they not the same division doe. no 168 title doe. no interim doe
      Because unlike a Ward fight, both of those fights would be PPV. And Golovkin has made it VERY CLEAR that the only reason he moves up is for a PPV fight.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
        Ward resume > GGG lack there of resume


        GGG exciting KOs > Ward's boring holding and head-butting

        therefore GGG is the more popular boxer and the bigger draw

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Barcham View Post
          So you think that Ward will accept under a million for the fight? Ward who was demanding $2 million for his tune up fights? Is GGG supposed to pay Ward out of his own bank account and fight for free? HBO refused what Ward was asking. So did Showtime. Everyone refused Ward which is why he had to fight on BET with a time buy.

          A PPV would not do enough sales to pay Ward his side of the purse.

          So how about all of you geniuses who think such a fight is easy to make tell the rest of us exactly how it can be done. And 'get GGG to tell HBO to do the fight' does not qualify. Neither does 'tell HBO to make it a PPV'. Tell us all how you would approach HBO to convince them that everyone could make money on this fight. How they can convince Ward to accept B side money. How to successfully market the PPV. Everything. Go ahead. We are all very anxious to know.
          You have no idea why showtime or HBO refused the fight. As I asked T18Z, did you see Ward request this or are you speculating on what purse he will want?

          The fight isn't PPV worthy. HBO is a multi million dollar corporation. If they wanted to make Ward/GGG, they could find the money for it.

          They could market the fight with a 24/7 as they would any PPV, just put it on regular HBO. They could have it on a free preview weekend, coupled with a big premiere movie, with the hopes it attracts more subscribers.

          Asking us to design the marketing and promotion is just a smokescreen. Since when do we as fans have to know all this before a fight can be made.

          Dude if your scared, just say your scared or buy a dog.

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          • #85
            Casuals have zero clue who Ward is and showing his fight on BET of all channels against a nobody, of course it does awful ratings.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Death_Adder View Post
              Where's the money in fighting Ward? He can't sell. Gives away free tickets and has piss poor viewership. High risk, EXTREMELY LOW reward.

              Isn't that what Fraud built himself up with? Werent' his quotes "If it don't make dollars it don't make sense(Cents)" And FloStans ate it up.

              Now that the tables are turned, FloStans want GGG to make the fight happen. GTFO.

              You claim Ward's the 2nd or 3rd best fighter in the world, then why pick on smaller guys? Ward needs to fight Kovalev anyway. He's a light heavyweight. He needs to sack up and fight him if he and his fans think he's the best out there in and around that weight division.
              so the "killer" who has a "difficult" time getting fights... is using the high risk/low reward scenario???

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              • #87
                Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
                so the "killer" who has a "difficult" time getting fights... is using the high risk/low reward scenario???
                do you not read the news? golovkin already agreed to the fight; hbo (and ward) said no

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  GGG needs to prove his p4p ranking is deserved. Fighting and defeating Ward does this.

                  GGG said he would fight anyone from 154-168, He isn't being picked on.

                  GGG is the a-side so it doesn't matter what Ward sells.
                  Yes it does matter, why risk a fight with Ward when there's a big PPV showdown with Canelo/Cotto looming?

                  And for what peanuts? Anyone with a brain knows putting Ward on PPV won't sell. Who would they sell that fight to? the 345K people that watch BET? LOL most of those people won't even shell out money for a PPV fight.

                  GGG is the A-side and he's choosing to wait for Cotto/Canelo, simple.

                  Ward, who got beat out by women's soccer and F1 qualifying (not the actual race, but the qualifying ) needs to get in back of the line and build himself back up.

                  Go to HBO, fight Fonfara, Pascal, and Kovalev.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
                    Ward resume > GGG lack there of resume
                    Who brought up GGG? I'm talking about ward and how he doesn't deserve a p4p status for fighting bums.
                    Last edited by elgu; 06-23-2015, 01:50 PM. Reason: question mark instead of period

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Barcham View Post
                      The result will be the same. Ward on his ass in the middle of the ring with a look on his face that says 'Oh SHIT! What did I get myself into!'.
                      If HBO execs thought this was the case, this fight would've been made ages ago. Instead, we get Lampley downplaying the fight on shows and on the fight game.

                      Look man, no matter how you feel about GGG, Ward proved himself against great comp, GGG has not. I can respect any GGG fan thinking he would win.

                      He's got to prove himself to real fans, not just those that crave "excitement". He is the equivalent of Vince Carter-exciting but not around when it counts.

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