Ward on BET gets 325K viewers

[bigjavi973]

no, ward-golovkin would not be a pay-per-view right now. so how are hbo going to justify paying a ppv level purse for a fight that likely does <2m viewers on normal hbo? it's not that i don't want the fight to happen, it's just that i can see that it is not viable until golovkin and/or ward increase their profile. golovkin claims to have approached hbo about the fight in the past and they said it was one for the future

But GGG is the "draw"! He puts asses in seats and sells out arenas!!! Surely he can do a PPV on his own and sell!!!

[NEETzsche]

When is the cotto or canelo fight looming? You said cotto will never fight him. Canelo surely isn't going to fight him if the Cotto fight falls through.

No GGG/ward isn't a ppv. Niether ward nor GGG are PPV stars. The fight can and should be done on regular HBO. Yes he is the a side. So make a fight with ward.

will ward fight golovkin for $2m, the same amount he received for the paul smith fight? should golovkin, being the a-side, accept anything less than 50% of the purse? so that is $4m minimum, more likely $6m-$8m, for a non-ppv fight that probably draws fewer than 2m viewers. who is going to pay for that? use your head, mate

[PK3434]

No idea if that's good or not for BET.

I don't know how BET normally does in that time slot but BET is in almost 90 million homes, almost 3 times as many as HBO.

[Barcham]

If HBO execs thought this was the case, this fight would've been made ages ago. Instead, we get Lampley downplaying the fight on shows and on the fight game.

Look man, no matter how you feel about GGG, Ward proved himself against great comp, GGG has not. I can respect any GGG fan thinking he would win.

He's got to prove himself to real fans, not just those that crave "excitement". He is the equivalent of Vince Carter-exciting but not around when it counts.

At least GGG has been fighting against the best who will step in the ring with him. Ward has done basically nothing for the past three years. He has a lot of work to do to get back his ranking among the best of today's fighters. And fighting an out of shape, overweight, unprepared Paul Smith is not the way to do that.

Ward has a lot of proving of his own to take care of.

Why would Froch be ppv? he is not big in the states

Froch - GGG would be in England and would be PPV in England. The boxing world does not revolve around the US, you know? I know Americans like to think they are the most important people on the face of the planet, but guess what? YOU AREN'T!

[The Big Dunn]

the fight gets made as soon as it is capable of making a profit. what's so hard to understand about that?

but just remember that the only time k2 tried to initiate negotiations, andre ward said no

This is a flawed argument because every fight/fighter is PPV worthy. These are 2 good fighters who should fight on regular HBO, where plenty of fights like this have always taken place.

If GGG was an established PPV star that needed to meet a bottom line, you'd have a point.

[NEETzsche]

But GGG is the "draw"! He puts asses in seats and sells out arenas!!! Surely he can do a PPV on his own and sell!!!

i don't understand what point you are even trying to make. golovkin routinely draws 1m-1.4m viewers on regular hbo and to headline a ppv event he'd need a dancing partner who draws at least as much as he does

[Eastcoast]

That "pretender" just beat GGG's "best" opponent.

go lick your salty wounds. The fight will come after the Canelo fight.

Also funny how the "pretender" is in his 4th weight class, fought everybody there is to fight, but he's a "coward" for not fighting GGG as soon as YA want him to.

The pretender has yet to fight anyone at the full 160lbs limit. Comes in beats a cripple and then weight drains Golovkin's left-overs. He was unproven at 154lbs. Beat Yuri Foreman, a shot Mayorga, a shot Delvin Rodriguez, a one eye Margarito and lost to Trout and Mayweather.

Now here you are praying a guy in the next weight class up - Ward will protect him.

[The Hammer]

He's got to prove himself to real fans, not just those that crave "excitement". He is the equivalent of Vince Carter-exciting but not around when it counts.

But didn't you tell us you don't like Wladimir Klitschko because he's not exciting and he holds too much?

[icha]

Why are you bringing Froch into this? What does he have to do with it? I'm Canadian! I'm not a Froch fan. You are an idiot, though!



But it was the only channel that would show the Ward fight, even with a time buy. That says a lot about his marketability.



The point is to show that there is no market for Ward. I do not have BET in my package but if it was a fight I wanted to see, I would have switched one of my channels I infrequently watch for BET for a month. If it had been a better opponent for Ward, I certainly would have considered it.

People claim that there is nothing stopping a Ward - GGG fight. Well there is the proof they need... there is no money in it. Ward does not attract viewers. No one cares about him. He is certainly not an A side draw.

monore draws nothing either, i mean the same can be said for guys like trout and lara and canelo fought them... i understand ggg going for the money like most boxers do, but every now and then is good to take on some of this challenges even for low money... again if he can fight a better name(draw wise) for more money is then understandable...

[NEETzsche]

This is a flawed argument because every fight/fighter is PPV worthy. These are 2 good fighters who should fight on regular HBO, where plenty of fights like this have always taken place.

If GGG was an established PPV star that needed to meet a bottom line, you'd have a point.

see below:

will ward fight golovkin for $2m, the same amount he received for the paul smith fight? should golovkin, being the a-side, accept anything less than 50% of the purse? so that is $4m minimum, more likely $6m-$8m, for a non-ppv fight that probably draws fewer than 2m viewers. who is going to pay for that? use your head, mate