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    #21
    Damn people really underrate Wilder around here..

    Wilder had trouble earlier in his career, be he has changed since. He took some heavy hits from Stiverne and it didn't even faze him.

    Cunningham hit Fury square in the face, that threw him down hard! Ya'll know Wilder's right arm, yeah, damn straight one of those would be enough to put this fat slob down.

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      #22
      Originally posted by ThatLeftaMarc
      Damn people really underrate Wilder around here..

      Wilder had trouble earlier in his career, be he has changed since. He took some heavy hits from Stiverne and it didn't even faze him.

      Cunningham hit Fury square in the face, that threw him down hard! Ya'll know Wilder's right arm, yeah, damn straight one of those would be enough to put this fat slob down.
      Thing Wiltshire Wilder is, it's clearly visible when he fights just how poor his footwork is and basically his entire fundamentals. Then you see he's just been knocking over cans, like Gavern was his was 32nd fight or something?

      His right hand is big and heavy but he just wings it, when he has you hurt he has next to no patience and composure he just starts winging like its a street ****** fight or something. So the way he is severely underrated, in my opinion is justified.

      As for the Stiverne win, kudos, but Stiverne was a joke champion and therefore currently Wilder is too...

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        #23
        Originally posted by TOE-TO-TOE
        Thing Wiltshire Wilder is, it's clearly visible when he fights just how poor his footwork is and basically his entire fundamentals. Then you see he's just been knocking over cans, like Gavern was his was 32nd fight or something?

        His right hand is big and heavy but he just wings it, when he has you hurt he has next to no patience and composure he just starts winging like its a street ****** fight or something. So the way he is severely underrated, in my opinion is justified.

        As for the Stiverne win, kudos, but Stiverne was a joke champion and therefore currently Wilder is too...
        We should make a bet if Wilder vs Fury happens.

        Povetkin is coming for him soon, I'll be back, trust me.

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          #24
          Originally posted by ThatLeftaMarc
          We should make a bet if Wilder vs Fury happens.

          Povetkin is coming for him soon, I'll be back, trust me.
          I'll make that bet with you right now!

          Fury beats Wilder handily.

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            #25
            Originally posted by TOE-TO-TOE
            I'll make that bet with you right now!

            Fury beats Wilder handily.


            Wilder is faster, stronger, and not a sloppy giant who uses his size to win fights. Even if Fury did manage to beat Wilder, in no way would it be easy. That fat chump would lose to a healthy Stiverne to be honest

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              #26
              Originally posted by ThatLeftaMarc


              Wilder is faster, stronger, and not a sloppy giant who uses his size to win fights. Even if Fury did manage to beat Wilder, in no way would it be easy. That fat chump would lose to a healthy Stiverne to be honest
              I'll bet you, real cash though, no e-points ****. Fury schools Wilder & Stiverne on the same night. Skills wise he's on another level.

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                #27
                Originally posted by ThatLeftaMarc


                Wilder is faster, stronger, and not a sloppy giant who uses his size to win fights. Even if Fury did manage to beat Wilder, in no way would it be easy. That fat chump would lose to a healthy Stiverne to be honest
                Laughable. And I don't need to use a smiley.

                You just bodied yourself.
                No need to reply.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TOE-TO-TOE
                  Laughable. And I don't need to use a smiley.

                  You just bodied yourself.
                  No need to reply.
                  Gotta laugh at his profile picture of Wilder knocking out a taxi driver.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by denium
                    Gotta laugh at his profile picture of Wilder knocking out a taxi driver.
                    Yeah lol, and the way he insinuated wilder beats fury because he's stronger and faster. As if they're the two most vital points to either man winning the fight. Pffft.

                    Fury, big and sloppy = only watched YouTube videos of parts of his fights from 2/3/4 years ago.

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                      #30
                      Ahh a good healthy debate....While I may wait before comparing Fury to Ali....Now Elroy, my son, remember what the teachers said about getting to excited in your special ed class.... Lets try to be obective for a moment.

                      for Wilder to be put in trouble by a gimme fight is NOT the same as getting caught by a solid Cunningham punch. Lighter fighters, who can punch, have always been a threat to heavyweights and Cunningham is an excellent fighter.

                      Wilder is just too limited. he has not developed footwork, angles, he does not really set his punches up...compare Wilder to Tommty Morrison, another big puncher who had the same profile as Wilder when he was terra firma in the division. Morrison was limited but set his punches up well. I don't see it with Wilder. There is hope for him, he fought well against Stiverne, but he has to learn and not try to bomb...he also needs to be more active.

                      If Fury had been awful when he started he would still show the capacity to develop as a fighter....something you see in the best....something you don't necessarily see in guys like Chisora who are just not smart fighters. BUT Fury always had skills. Fury could already move well and fight in all ranges and he has now been taught to move, to avoid guys who can punch, and to counter big punchers. Fury has also become physically capable of fighting complete rounds...something lacking from many fighters these days.

                      Fury has many skills at this point. He can beat you inside, he can use his reach, he can fight up on his toes and he does not need to avoid confrontation because of his ability to counter and to do work in the clinques.

                      Fury is far and wide the most talented of the heavy weight prospects. Jennings was content to hang with Vlad, Fury will not be and has the size and skills to make Vlad cry.

                      So at a glance Wilder can throw big punches. he cannot fight inside, cannot put his punches together, cannot exert himself past a certain point. Fury can do all these things, is smart, has a great team...listen to Peter Fury's commentary, etc. Its no contest. This guy will beat Vlad IMO

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