what was it about Margarito that made some of you think he was a threat to beat Money

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  • djtmal
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    #251
    Originally posted by therealpugilist
    both have been outboxed by smaller men....mayweather is levels better than anyone who handed them a loss....Lara deserved to beat Williams...I had Martinez by two points in the first fight scoring it live...great fight

    mayweather in 2005-2007 was a lot more athletic than 2015

    size and reach isnt everything...you actually have to hit something to win rounds.

    Carlos Quintana, Daniel Santos, Cotto, Lara, etc none of the guys who beat them had mayweathers ring IQ, defense, speed, or counterpunching ability.
    I don't care. None of those guys had Margarito or even Williams tangibles, and I just wanted to see how Mayweather would fare against a natural ww who wouldn't wilt because they got hit. Mayweather had already proved his skillset to me. I was looking to see where his ballset was to be honest.

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    • BROOKLYN CESAR
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      #252
      This was so long ago i cant really remember but wasnt floyd trying to make dlh fight aound the time margarito fight was being mentioned? Personally i think margaritos size wouldve given floyd problems but after watching canelo fight i think floyd wouldve picked margarito apart for 12 rnds.

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      • therealpugilist
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        #253
        Originally posted by djtmal
        I don't care. None of those guys had Margarito or even Williams tangibles, and I just wanted to see how Mayweather would fare against a natural ww who wouldn't wilt because they got hit. Mayweather had already proved his skillset to me. I was looking to see where his ballset was to be honest.
        his balls were in his scrotum lol.....seriously though bro....


        .....if you fight for a world title in your 18th pro fight...youve got balls...especially at 21 years old

        Canelo, Maidana were over 160 fight night...one fight was at 147 other @ 52....floyd weighed like 150 for both fights on fight night

        hell castillo weighed 148 and outweighed him by a division or 2 fight night



        .....if youve given up 10+ pounds vs world champions on fight night....you've got balls


        ....sounds to me you were hoping he lost bro.....just being honest, no disrespect...Margo was nothing special bro

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          #254
          Originally posted by djtmal
          I don't care. None of those guys had Margarito or even Williams tangibles, and I just wanted to see how Mayweather would fare against a natural ww who wouldn't wilt because they got hit. Mayweather had already proved his skillset to me. I was looking to see where his ballset was to be honest.
          Floyd took the same punches that knocked Margarito out and came back to dominate Mosley, Floyd out boxed the guys that out boxed Margarito in Cotto and Manny and look how easy they out boxed him, I would bet my house on Floyd schooling Margarito as he is not even a one punch KO guy he has to land many many blows on Floyd and that aint happening with a plodder like Margarito.

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          • Sweet Jones
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            #255
            Originally posted by therealpugilist


            summed that up quite nicely Sweet Jones...aka Uncle chad lol
            Somebody has to keep it trill up in here.

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            • djtmal
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              #256
              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              his balls were in his scrotum lol.....seriously though bro....


              .....if you fight for a world title in your 18th pro fight...youve got balls...especially at 21 years old

              Canelo, Maidana were over 160 fight night...one fight was at 147 other @ 52....floyd weighed like 150 for both fights on fight night

              hell castillo weighed 148 and outweighed him by a division or 2 fight night



              .....if youve given up 10+ pounds vs world champions on fight night....you've got balls


              ....sounds to me you were hoping he lost bro.....just being honest, no disrespect...Margo was nothing special bro
              I wanted to see the fight is that cool with you? Margarito was a beltholder who was in Floyd's division, whose tangibles made up for what he lacked in skillset, and I could name a boatload of fighters that Floyd fought, that were not that special, or by the time Floyd fought them, what made them special was a foregone conclusion.

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              • rambov
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                #257
                Mag would have gotten his ass beat. He did ok for himself with the most feared man stuff.


                Floyd didn't want to fight him earlier because of money.

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                  #258
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist
                  Margarito is one of the most basic fighters I ever seen get turned into a boogeyman because a great campaign from his promoter and looking good beating just decent competition

                  Margarito lost to every Elite fighter he stepped in the ring with....Cotto, Paul Williams, Mosley and Pacquaio...even lost to Daniel Santos smh and no name guys early in his career


                  How was he gonna beat some one that was better than them....Mayweather is without a doubt the best of his generation and back then, their was no one even messing with pretty boy Floyd from 2004-2007

                  Cotto boxed his ears off until the bricks and fatigue played their part...Mayweather is better than Cotto in almost every era...until the 6 round I don't remember Margo taking a round




                  Dude was a good fighter but the biggest hype job of my generation....they all look like boogeymen until they face elite guys....I hope GGG live up to the hype
                  1 he beat the crap out of cotto

                  2 pwill was a good fight


                  Styles makes fights

                  Marg is way bigger, stronger than floyd. Also the style is how you give floyd a tough fight.

                  Stay on top of him, keep throwing, throw a lot.

                  You see how marg kept coming at pac even though pac broke his face?

                  No floyd punch would keep him away.

                  Whether he can beat floyd, dunno.

                  But he probably had a better shot than cotto or pac and them.

                  Pwill too for the same reasons if pwill just kept coming.

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                  • Kigali
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                    #259
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist
                    his balls were in his scrotum lol.....seriously though bro....


                    .....if you fight for a world title in your 18th pro fight...youve got balls...especially at 21 years old

                    Canelo, Maidana were over 160 fight night...one fight was at 147 other @ 52....floyd weighed like 150 for both fights on fight night

                    hell castillo weighed 148 and outweighed him by a division or 2 fight night



                    .....if youve given up 10+ pounds vs world champions on fight night....you've got balls


                    ....sounds to me you were hoping he lost bro.....just being honest, no disrespect...Margo was nothing special bro
                    Can you believe that mofo actually said Oscar wasn't dangerous???

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                    • rr00676
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                      #260
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      so what ?

                      he would keep missing, and keep getting countered

                      Margo would have a better chance if Mayweather was shot, or if his legs were gone..... otherwise, nada
                      "So what?"

                      Lots of aggression/volume can land you decisions (including a lot of bad ones). I can certainly imagine 2 CJ Ross-like cards costing Floyd the match.

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