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  • #41
    Originally posted by BrometheusBob View Post
    I think if/when Wlad gets a shot to unify the belts, that should be his last fight. If Wilder gets past Povetkin (big if), and Wlad gets past Fury (not assured either but I like his chances), then Wlad/Wilder is a good last fight. Retire as the first undisputed heavyweight champ in over a decade.

    But idk, while he didn't look his best against Jennings, he still has yet to be made to look his age. Who knows, maybe Wlad will still be able to hold onto his dominant position in his 40s.
    He arguably won 11 rounds in the fight against Jennings. I don't know how people can criticize Wlad or state "he's getting old, he looked his age" when he dominated the fight from start to finish against a young determined contender.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by KnockoutNed View Post
      It was a good shot, he got back up and knocked Cunningham out. Nobody stopped Cunningham before or since. USS was a good fighter, Wilder got layed out by a 17-20 bum. That sub 50 ranked Arreola KO1 victim bum wouldn't have been competitive for even a second against Fury (or any other decently skilled fighter). The way I saw Wilder teetering like a drunken sailor and otherwise struggling against said sub 50 ranked cherrypicked bum the other night makes me think Wilder is worse than even I thought. I don't give him much chance against Povetkin.
      I think Molina would have gave plenty of fighters trouble on Saturday. He fought well.

      That said, Wilder didn't "struggle". The scorecards were either Wilder in a shutout or Molina winning a round. He landed nearly double the punches. He knocked him down four times. If Wilder "struggled" with Molina, then Wlad "struggled" with Povetkin..

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      • #43
        Originally posted by BWC View Post
        I think Molina would have gave plenty of fighters trouble on Saturday. He fought well.

        That said, Wilder didn't "struggle". The scorecards were either Wilder in a shutout or Molina winning a round. He landed nearly double the punches. He knocked him down four times. If Wilder "struggled" with Molina, then Wlad "struggled" with Povetkin..
        Great analogy but we know neither struggled, Wilder was hit flush and shrugged it off. Klitschko was never in danger either.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by BWC View Post
          I think Molina would have gave plenty of fighters trouble on Saturday. He fought well.

          That said, Wilder didn't "struggle". The scorecards were either Wilder in a shutout or Molina winning a round. He landed nearly double the punches. He knocked him down four times. If Wilder "struggled" with Molina, then Wlad "struggled" with Povetkin..
          Of course Wlad struggled with Povetkin he should have been disqualified! Likewise Wilder did struggle with Molina, almost getting knocked out at one point. I gave Molina rounds 3 and 8. Wilder lost 2 rounds to a sub 50 ranked cherrypicked bum. Let that sink in. Molina is absolutely terrible, there are 30-40 guys even in this ultra weak era that would easily destroy this bum.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by KnockoutNed View Post
            Of course Wlad struggled with Povetkin he should have been disqualified! Likewise Wilder did struggle with Molina, almost getting knocked out at one point. I gave Molina rounds 3 and 8. Wilder lost 2 rounds to a sub 50 ranked cherrypicked bum. Let that sink in. Molina is absolutely terrible, there are 30-40 guys even in this ultra weak era that would easily destroy this bum.
            OK now we can't take you seriously haha

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            • #46
              Originally posted by BWC View Post
              OK now we can't take you seriously haha
              I'm having a hard time taking you seriously. Did you watch Clincko- Povetkin? Wouldn't you consider a man illegally clinching 189 times in a 36 minute boxing match like his life depended on it struggling? Do you actually rate that sub 50 ranked Arreola KO1 victim? Did you not see that sub 50 ranked bum put Wilder on ***** street in the 3rd and then back him up in the 8th?
              Last edited by KnockoutNed; 06-15-2015, 05:58 PM.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by KnockoutNed View Post
                I'm having a hard time taking you seriously. Did you watch Clincko- Povetkin? Wouldn't you not consider a man illegally clinching 189 times in a 36 minute boxing match like his life depended on it struggling? Do you actually rate that sub 50 ranked Arreola KO1 victim?
                Molina is not great or anything, but he was game for a fight. More than I can say for supposedly great challengers like David Haye or Kevin Johnson. He was actually trying to win and it showed. I rate him as a very limited fighter with good heart. He quit against Arreola. He didn't this time.

                And what was Wlad supposed to do? All Povetkin did was bumrush him and stick his head into Wlad's chest and hug his waist haha. He was being brutalized by Wlad's jab and had to do something to get inside with his short arms. Not sure what Wlad was supposed to do, side punch Sasha's head? Sasha was a joke that fight and had nothing for Wlad. Period..Fifteen point win damn..

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by BWC View Post
                  Molina is not great or anything, but he was game for a fight. More than I can say for supposedly great challengers like David Haye or Kevin Johnson. He was actually trying to win and it showed. I rate him as a very limited fighter with good heart. He quit against Arreola. He didn't this time.

                  And what was Wlad supposed to do? All Povetkin did was bumrush him and stick his head into Wlad's chest and hug his waist haha. He was being brutalized by Wlad's jab and had to do something to get inside with his short arms. Not sure what Wlad was supposed to do, side punch Sasha's head? Sasha was a joke that fight and had nothing for Wlad. Period..Fifteen point win damn..
                  Wow. You just compared Molina to David Haye. WOW!

                  If anyone needed proof of Wilder-fan delusion, here it is!

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by BWC View Post

                    And what was Wlad supposed to do? All Povetkin did was bumrush him and stick his head into Wlad's chest and hug his waist haha.
                    That's complete nonsense. Trying to blame Povetkin for getting illegally fouled is a joke. That's like blaming a fighter for getting butted because his head was in the way. Wlad initiated nearly all of those clinches in any case. Here is the video evidence of possibly the most egregious deliberate fouling ever seen in boxing match:



                    The guy can't fight on the inside to save his life. He was terrified of getting chinned, that's why he desperately clinched. If the rules were actually being enforced he would have been DQ'd before the 3rd round. That's struggling.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by yoz View Post
                      Wow. You just compared Molina to David Haye. WOW!

                      If anyone needed proof of Wilder-fan delusion, here it is!
                      I didn't say he was good as David Haye genius. I said he was game and came to fight. Was that really so hard to comprehend?

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