Froch-Golovkin Talks Die Down

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Here we have GGG fans claiming Froch ducked the dude even after his promoter and himself literally came and said make us an offer we can not refure. GGG fans need to accept his management and promoters as well as HBO are failing him, you don't walk into a fight with a ppv star unless you're bringing something to the table yourself, it's that simple. GGG brings nothing financially, he's exciting so what, it's a fight Froch's own fans voted they wanted to see him fight next yet he can face DeGale for the same money in what is perceived to be an easier fight.

If HBO put up big money for a GGG marquee opponent, he breaks into elite level and the money follows, simple. For whatever reason they appear reluctant, maybe too many ppv stars already, possibly and all the more likey fear he is too small for SM hence why he is sticking around MW trying to fight JMW's, I know their aint a wealth of talent at 160, but guys like Lemiuex nearly have a country behind them, surely putting the money up to face these guys will open up GGG to a whole new fan base.

I can not grasp where GGG fanboys can not understand any of this.

Can you list some of these PPV stars for us? I can't actually think of any right now beyond Floyd and Manny who are guaranteed a PPV all on their own. You must know things that no one else does.

How can GGG fight Lemieux when Lemieux has been planning his fight with N'Dam for a good number of months now? It will be at least Oct or Nov before Lemieux fights again and Loeffler has already stated that they are open to fighting him or Lee as soon as they are willing. Lee will be fighting Saunders in his mandatory soon so he is out of the picture for a while. Will Oscar be willing to put Lemieux up against GGG? I guess we will have to wait and see what happens. My guess would be not a chance, that ODLH will want Lemieux to take a couple of fights to cash in on his new title, assuming he wins, before taking a chance against Golovkin.

You, like most other anti-Golovkin trolls, fail to realize that GGG cannot force anyone into the ring with him. When it seems like a top opponent is on the horizon, things fall apart with the opponent either refusing to fight his mandatory defense or refusing to sign a contract or, recently, deciding to retire.

Maybe you or one of the other geniuses, none of whom work in the fight game, could tell Loeffler how to do his job better or offer your 'expert' services to get these fights made. You certainly should be out there earning the millions that these guys are letting slip away. Go for it! Show us all how it should be done.

Or you could simply STFU because YDKSAB.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Thats cause youre not too bright. Ggg is not putting together an offer for a fight in the Uk, nobody does that. Hbo never pays much for overseas fights. All Ghg can do is offer to meet Froch on Carls home turf, where hes the money man and unquestioned A side.

Lmao.

Froch could fight you and the Brits would pay for it, ie why the GGG fight ain't happening because he makes no more or no less than he would for facing a numb skull like you. If HBO guarantee all or the majority of sales from the States you've got a fight, yet GGG for whatever reason won't be moved up to super. It's laughable how you can point the finger at me but genuinely can not grasp what is at play here.

[KnockoutNed]

Carl isn't ducking anybody, especially a slow easy to hit midget like Golovkin. He's had a great career and should retire if he doesn't have the desire anymore. GGG will go on to be the next Arthur Abraham at 168.

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Lmao.

Froch could fight you and the Brits would pay for it, ie why the GGG fight ain't happening because he makes no more or no less than he would for facing a numb skull like you. If HBO guarantee all or the majority of sales from the States you've got a fight, yet GGG for whatever reason won't be moved up to super. It's laughable how you can point the finger at me but genuinely can not grasp what is at play here.

Wtf does this gibberish mean? Froch's promoter said it was a mega fight, you should tell him he has no clue, it'd be no bigger than Yusaf Mack.

[HeroBando]

Carl isn't ducking anybody, especially a slow easy to hit midget like Golovkin. He's had a great career and should retire if he doesn't have the desire anymore. GGG will go on to be the next Arthur Abraham at 168.

You forgot to address this:

"It was tongue in cheek back then. I was being a bit cheeky and you can take those comments with a pinch of salt. What I will say though is this guy can ****ing punch: he's dangerous and if he can be avoided we'll avoid him. I'll stand by that and I don't give a ****."

[Jewish-Reptile]

Can you list some of these PPV stars for us? I can't actually think of any right now beyond Floyd and Manny who are guaranteed a PPV all on their own. You must know things that no one else does.

How can GGG fight Lemieux when Lemieux has been planning his fight with N'Dam for a good number of months now? It will be at least Oct or Nov before Lemieux fights again and Loeffler has already stated that they are open to fighting him or Lee as soon as they are willing. Lee will be fighting Saunders in his mandatory soon so he is out of the picture for a while. Will Oscar be willing to put Lemieux up against GGG? I guess we will have to wait and see what happens. My guess would be not a chance, that ODLH will want Lemieux to take a couple of fights to cash in on his new title, assuming he wins, before taking a chance against Golovkin.

You, like most other anti-Golovkin trolls, fail to realize that GGG cannot force anyone into the ring with him. When it seems like a top opponent is on the horizon, things fall apart with the opponent either refusing to fight his mandatory defense or refusing to sign a contract or, recently, deciding to retire.

Maybe you or one of the other geniuses, none of whom work in the fight game, could tell Loeffler how to do his job better or offer your 'expert' services to get these fights made. You certainly should be out there earning the millions that these guys are letting slip away. Go for it! Show us all how it should be done.

Or you could simply STFU because YDKSAB.

Finally, HURRAH, you stumbled upon the answer you sought yourself. GGG can not force opponents into the ring with him.

It feels like that moment you finally let go of your daughters hand to let her walk unaided for the first time, truly breathtaking moment, I'm expericing euphoria.

You keep going on about Loeffler waffling about being receptive to facing guys like Lemiuex and Lee, whom have already been stopped by opponents GGG wiped off the face of the earth. What is in it for GGG fans to see him face these guys, when will you want to see him challenged, ever ? Please tell me. Their is zero kudos in defeating these guys as their isnt in JMW's either.

Lmao, nobody is telling HBO or Loeffler nothing because guys like you keep lapping up these **** defences and yanking themselves of at the thought of him facing JMW, you're the reason we ain't gonna get the fights we wanna see GGG in. If his fan base demanded he face a challenge maybe he'd step up to the plate.

At what point do you ascertain I want to see Lee or Lemiuex versus GGG, can you not read yourself ? You're blindly trying to defend issues I'm not even taking up whilst completing playing into what I have been saying is the issue all along. Either you are incredibly ****** or you are incredibly defensive over a boxer whom for whatever reason refuses to participate in a competive action.

Froch is a ppv star, defeat him and you have your breakthrough. Loeffler himself said it would be ppv In the States.

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Finally, HURRAH, you stumbled upon the answer you sought yourself. GGG can not force opponents into the ring with him.

It feels like that moment you finally let go of your daughters hand to let her walk unaided for the first time, truly breathtaking moment, I'm expericing euphoria.

You keep going on about Loeffler waffling about being receptive to facing guys like Lemiuex and Lee, whom have already been stopped by opponents GGG wiped off the face of the earth. What is in it for GGG fans to see him face these guys, when will you want to see him challenged, ever ? Please tell me. Their is zero kudos in defeating these guys as their isnt in JMW's either.

Lmao, nobody is telling HBO or Loeffler nothing because guys like you keep lapping up these **** defences and yanking themselves of at the thought of him facing JMW, you're the reason we ain't gonna get the fights we wanna see GGG in. If his fan base demanded he face a challenge maybe he'd step up to the plate.

At what point do you ascertain I want to see Lee or Lemiuex versus GGG, can you not read yourself ? You're blindly trying to defend issues I'm not even taking up whilst completing playing into what I have been saying is the issue all along. Either you are incredibly ****** or you are incredibly defensive over a boxer whom for whatever reason refuses to participate in a competive action.

Froch is a ppv star, defeat him and you have your breakthrough. Loeffler himself said it would be ppv In the States.

You're totally ****ing delusional, aren't you? I, and many others, have stated from day one that GGG cannot force anyone to fight him. If he could, we would not be having this discussion because Cotto would have already fought and lost his title to GGG as well as the other MW title holders.

And where do you see me saying that Loeffler is waffling about accepting a fight with ANYONE? Both Golovkin and Loeffler will accept any fighter that is accepted by HBO. Even HBO have stated that Golovkin is the only fighter they have ever dealt with who has never rejected a proposed opponent.

And who are these JrMWs you continue to spew crap about? Do you mean the MIDDLEWEIGHT LINEAL CHAMPION?

You want to see Froch? Maybe you know how to get him to accept the fight! You are such a ****ing genius you should contact Loeffler and tell him exactly what to do. Maybe you can pay the purse yourself! Go and find 10 million bucks and set it all up yourself at your risk. So what if you don't make a profit or break even. It's only money. You seem to think everything is so easy to do, what are you doing wasting time posting here? You should be out there making all the top matches happen and pulling in millions of dollars profit.

Or maybe you should simply STFU and go away? You have already proven that you are an idiot, that you know how to complain about everything but have no solutions to anything. So why are you still here?

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By the way... welcome to the ignore list. I have no time to debate with intellectually challenged individuals.

[Jewish-Reptile]

By the way... welcome to the ignore list. I have no time to debate with intellectually challenged individuals.

To place someone on ignore you need to add them to list it is really quite simple, if you're struggling I'll help you through it.

[Jewish-Reptile]

You're totally ****ing delusional, aren't you? I, and many others, have stated from day one that GGG cannot force anyone to fight him. If he could, we would not be having this discussion because Cotto would have already fought and lost his title to GGG as well as the other MW title holders.

And where do you see me saying that Loeffler is waffling about accepting a fight with ANYONE? Both Golovkin and Loeffler will accept any fighter that is accepted by HBO. Even HBO have stated that Golovkin is the only fighter they have ever dealt with who has never rejected a proposed opponent.

And who are these JrMWs you continue to spew crap about? Do you mean the MIDDLEWEIGHT LINEAL CHAMPION?

You want to see Froch? Maybe you know how to get him to accept the fight! You are such a ****ing genius you should contact Loeffler and tell him exactly what to do. Maybe you can pay the purse yourself! Go and find 10 million bucks and set it all up yourself at your risk. So what if you don't make a profit or break even. It's only money. You seem to think everything is so easy to do, what are you doing wasting time posting here? You should be out there making all the top matches happen and pulling in millions of dollars profit.

Or maybe you should simply STFU and go away? You have already proven that you are an idiot, that you know how to complain about everything but have no solutions to anything. So why are you still here?

You've answered absolutely no questions and only posed more to draw attention away from the issues at hand, HBO will not pay for the likes of Cotto, Canelo and Froch to get in the ring with GGG.

Boxing is a short career, do some research, you'll understand why GGG is only fighting crappy fights and why the fans on NSB are beginning to get fed up with his defences.

Middleweight champ whom holds the belt purely for financial reasons and will vacate it for financial reasons too. What is their not to understand ? Ignore me all you like, I care little, I never expected to get straight answers from you regardless.