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  • #31
    Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
    Retirement seems imminent.

    I can only laugh at people who mention 'ducking' when talking about Carl Froch. It is hilarious. A guy who has fought the biggest and best super middleweight's all over the world is scared of a middleweight with no notable victories? Yeah, ok.
    Right. Froch has been in there with everyone you could ever ask him to step in with. He isn't ducking Golovkin. He just doesn't want to do this anymore.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
      Right. Froch has been in there with everyone you could ever ask him to step in with. He isn't ducking Golovkin. He just doesn't want to do this anymore.
      Froch's problem is motivation. I'm guessing the money would'nt be an issue and outside of Ward who is really a challenge to him. So if he can't get motivated for GGG he really needs to hang them up. A sharp and motivated Froch beats GGG imo, but a half hearted effort he gets demolished.

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      • #33
        can never criticise a fighter for deciding to retire. it's shame that we won't get to see this war though

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        • #34
          Better than Lara ok, but anything less is unacceptable

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          • #35
            the way its going i wouldnt be surprised to see froch retire,
            i was hoping he'd fight GGG and i believe he wouldve knocked him out and wouldve been good for his legacy,
            but the ball is in his court and if he aint 100% feeling it than why even bother..

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Chrismart View Post
              GGG is going to feast on Cotto or Canelo. If he fights anyone as a 'step a-side' fight when Cotto faces Canelo...then it won't be someone like Froch. It will be a 'stay busy' fight.
              Froch IS a stay busy fight for Golovkin. He is not a MW and does not advance GGG's goal of unifying all the MW titles. He is a way to stay busy and pick up a decent payday at the same time.

              Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
              So you are basically saying that Froch is retiring because "hes scared of GGG doe" "Froch doesnt want to fight GGG doe"?

              Nope. Never said that at all. You are only revealing your lack of reading comprehension once again. Froch is debating retirement and debating fighting one last fight against GGG. Will the money he makes from the fight make any difference in his life? Probably not. Will beating a MW make any difference in his legacy? Not at all. But a loss to Golovkin will not help his legacy in the least and GGG is a very dangerous opponent, by Froch's own admission, and anything can happen in the ring. Is it worth it to Froch to risk his future on that one last fight? Not at all. Is there any shame is retiring instead of fighting GGG? Nope. Not in the slightest. Froch has earned the right to end his career whatever way he wishes, whether with a farewell fight or just a wave and a thank you to his fans.


              Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
              Gg only wants to go up for bums like chavez and guys that wanna retire in froch
              And you have finally earned a spot on my ignore list with the rest of the ignorant idiots. I was wondering who would be the first to take a shot at disparaging Froch as an opponent. If it was Ward, you would be saying that he was a bum coming off a long layoff. There is no one who would be a suitable opponent for Golovkin as you will always find some problem with them. You are not a boxing fan, you are a troll who just wants to get under everyone's skin.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by denium View Post
                I don't hate Golovkin at all, i enjoy watching him fight. I just hate some of his ******ed fanboys.
                Here we have GGG fans claiming Froch ducked the dude even after his promoter and himself literally came and said make us an offer we can not refure. GGG fans need to accept his management and promoters as well as HBO are failing him, you don't walk into a fight with a ppv star unless you're bringing something to the table yourself, it's that simple. GGG brings nothing financially, he's exciting so what, it's a fight Froch's own fans voted they wanted to see him fight next yet he can face DeGale for the same money in what is perceived to be an easier fight.

                If HBO put up big money for a GGG marquee opponent, he breaks into elite level and the money follows, simple. For whatever reason they appear reluctant, maybe too many ppv stars already, possibly and all the more likey fear he is too small for SM hence why he is sticking around MW trying to fight JMW's, I know their aint a wealth of talent at 160, but guys like Lemiuex nearly have a country behind them, surely putting the money up to face these guys will open up GGG to a whole new fan base.

                I can not grasp where GGG fanboys can not understand any of this.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Szef View Post
                  Gotta love how Ward and Lara are Cotto fan boys' new second favourite fighters

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Scott-Weiland View Post
                    Here we have GGG fans claiming Froch ducked the dude even after his promoter and himself literally came and said make us an offer we can not refure. GGG fans need to accept his management and promoters as well as HBO are failing him, you don't walk into a fight with a ppv star unless you're bringing something to the table yourself, it's that simple. GGG brings nothing financially, he's exciting so what, it's a fight Froch's own fans voted they wanted to see him fight next yet he can face DeGale for the same money in what is perceived to be an easier fight.

                    If HBO put up big money for a GGG marquee opponent, he breaks into elite level and the money follows, simple. For whatever reason they appear reluctant, maybe too many ppv stars already, possibly and all the more likey fear he is too small for SM hence why he is sticking around MW trying to fight JMW's, I know their aint a wealth of talent at 160, but guys like Lemiuex nearly have a country behind them, surely putting the money up to face these guys will open up GGG to a whole new fan base.

                    I can not grasp where GGG fanboys can not understand any of this.
                    Thats cause youre not too bright. Ggg is not putting together an offer for a fight in the Uk, nobody does that. Hbo never pays much for overseas fights. All Ghg can do is offer to meet Froch on Carls home turf, where hes the money man and unquestioned A side.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Barcham View Post
                      Froch IS a stay busy fight for Golovkin. He is not a MW and does not advance GGG's goal of unifying all the MW titles. He is a way to stay busy and pick up a decent payday at the same time.



                      Nope. Never said that at all. You are only revealing your lack of reading comprehension once again. Froch is debating retirement and debating fighting one last fight against GGG. Will the money he makes from the fight make any difference in his life? Probably not. Will beating a MW make any difference in his legacy? Not at all. But a loss to Golovkin will not help his legacy in the least and GGG is a very dangerous opponent, by Froch's own admission, and anything can happen in the ring. Is it worth it to Froch to risk his future on that one last fight? Not at all. Is there any shame is retiring instead of fighting GGG? Nope. Not in the slightest. Froch has earned the right to end his career whatever way he wishes, whether with a farewell fight or just a wave and a thank you to his fans.
                      You genuinely believe GGG is hanging around 160 to unify as opposed to sit around waiting for the money fights against Cotto and Canelo ? Which for the record are not happening. Don't believe me ! Listen to Canelo and Cotto yourself.

                      If GGG wants kudos for defeating the best he gonna have to up to 168 and have his promoters put the money up to tempt ROC or Matchroom for Ward or Froch, I genuinely believe his handlers have real fears over these fights.

                      What does unifying mean to a guy who has already soundly Murray and Geale in a fashion they have never been handled before, Geale defeated Sturm when Sturm still had fight in him, Murray arguably beat Maravilla, the belts and lineage after those convincing wins mean little in the grand scheme of things, what is defeating Heiland and and Lemiuex another guy defeated by another dude (Rubio) whom GGG handled like he wasnt in any way a threat whatsoever, what do wins against those guys bring ? As an outsider looking in, it looks to me like it does nothing for legacy, their is no kudos in defeating guys knocked out by guys you yourself spanked in two rounds.

                      You still gonna tell me GGG fans want to see him unify, or is that you want to see him face a challenge from JMW's, because that to me just sounds ******.

                      Lets try get **** straight, guys like Denium don't hate GGG, they enjoy watching him, but they wanna see him challenged they wanna know how good he really is before sounding off and sounding ****** like some of his half witted fanboys do. I myself fall right into this category, I ain't no Froch fanboy either, so don't let that cloud your narrow minded vision.

                      I want the best fights, as you too claim, only a guy who has destroyed A level MW's going on to challenge juniors ain't the best fights. Why is it you think their is such a huge call for Cotto vs Canelo ? Could it be both are evenly matched and it sounds like a terrific fight you think ? Or is it because odds are so favourably stacked in favor of one fighter fanboys are demanding it ?


                      Whilst your busy getting exciting over GGG facing his next 'challenge' as his fans so proudly profess his opponents, the rest of us will hope in vain for competitive fights.

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