Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: Golovkin Has Had 8 or 9 Different Excuses

[i'm a fun haver]

I enjoy watching GGG, have done for a longer period than most of his new fans who began to take note of him upon his break out year, with him being on undercards of K2 shows etc, you know im an avid Klitschko supporter and have been for a substantial time, as I have explained to you before.

What you can not accept is boxing fans view and stand point they are fed up of seeing him in one sided fights used to build his profile on HBO, the time has come for him to step up to a level recognised by hardcore and casuals alike, in fights versus guys who hurt when they return punches, guys like Rubio and Geale are not those guys, and trying to set up fights in lower weight classes don't float either. It is pathetic we are being teased with fights with JMW's when they should be testing the water at 168 against guys like Smith and DeGale in preparation for Ward and Froch.

Yeh ok I understand he wants the big money fights, but if you read and listen to what guys like Canelo and Cotto are saying, you would understand those fights aren't happening, who cares about him unifying the division, we want competitive fights facing guys like Lee and Lemieux ain't gonna suffice either, Rubio stopped Lemieux and Lee lasted all of how many rounds versus Jr. Those fights don't have any appeal. What is it you want ? GGG to have all these titles but not face a challenge ? You're going on about him fighting for the WBC belt regardless of whether Cotto retains it or not and fighting Heiland or some other nobody for the vacant title, why I ask, what is in that excites you ? Who is their in the division who poses a challenge, aside from the money side of things who is worth sticking around for who brings kudos for defeating ? GGG already beat the guy who beat Lemieux, the guy who beat Lee ran to the supers to avoid him forcing him to line up Geale already, Murray arguably beat Marvailla and GGG duly pulled his A hole over his nose. Move up already and give the fight fans what they want.

You know what else isn't happening?
Ward or Lara fighting GGG in September.
If you weren't a moron, you would understand that.

[bigjavi973]

What's your point? He was campaigning at MW before he fought Golovkin and he was coming off a win over Sebastian Heiland at 160. It was his 1st defense of the WBA Fedecentro middleweight title. Get off it. It was a stay busy fight in Panama, off tv, with no money behind it. Golovkin was JWW when he was 19, does that make you feel better?


As for the 166lbs catch weights with Rodriguez & Oosthuizen, as I stated Rodriguez just fought his last two fights 166lbs and Oothuizen was a year removed from 160lbs. Golovkin was hardly weight draining those guys. Keep choking.

Oh, additionally Golovkin offered to fight Gabe Rosado at 158lbs. How cowardly of Golovkin to offer a CW.

Excuses excuses excuses. I mentioned he had 2 fights at mw.

[BattlingNelson]

How many offers has Ward made for GGG?

[i'm a fun haver]

GGG's team said they'll fight ANYONE from 154-168 since they were having trouble getting fights.

If I remember correctly. Didn't Ward "send out a message" that one of the announcers read they'll fight GGG?

Ward's lawyer sent HBO an email. lol
Ward's first fight in 19 months is a catchweight tune up vs another(low level) SMW.
Virgil Hunter said they are looking at 2 or 3 tune ups before fighting anybody, he also said GGG isn't a tune up fight.
David Itskowich said that the timing is NOT right for GGG vs Ward right now.
This is explained to you people in every thread.
There are articles ON THIS WEBSITE about this ****.
Why don't you understand it yet?

[Contra]

The purse would not be that big, but crushing Ward would propel GGG into the top 5 pound for pound and make him a ppv star.

Why the fk do you keep repeating that same ridiculous notion?

A win over Ward would only impress serious boxing fans. Everyone else would be watching the highlights on Sportcenter the next day asking "who the hell is Andre Ward? and why does he clinch so often?" Gennady would NOT become an instant PPV star by beating a guy no one outside of the boxing community has heard of. He WOULD become an instant PPV star by beating Cotto or Canelo.

Floyd's wins over Corrales and Castillo were great, but they didn't make him a star. That really boring fight with Oscar made him a star. Why? Was it because DLH was top 3 p4p or some kind of KO monster? No. It was because Oscar was known by casual fans. People that didn't even watch boxing knew who De La Hoya was. Not to mention that a lot of Floyd's popularity comes from people hating him. Rigo beat Donaire (a popular fighter) fairly easily and made him look like a chump, and what did it get him? Nothing, because while they both have a style that may be hard for casual fans to enjoy, Rigo is not entertaining outside of the ring like Floyd.

But just so I'm clear, I would love for this fight to happen. When Ward gets his tuneups out of the way (and hopefully looks good doing it), there is no reason why this fight shouldn't happen. However, I would like it to be after Gennady has made a permanent move to 168.

[Eastcoast]

Excuses excuses excuses. I mentioned he had 2 fights at mw.

And I mentioned if you knew how to use the scroll bar on your computer you would see he had 5 in addition to those 2.

[TudorMiron]

If you GGG fans want to make it all about "market value" then I accept it and concede that there are bigger money fights out there for Golovkin than Andre Ward.

But if this is your logic then you can never, ever again complain about Cotto choosing to fight Canelo instead of GGG. There is more money for Miguel if he fights Alvarez so he is perfectly in the right to take that road.

So no more b*tching about that, please. You can't have it both ways.

People are not complaining about Cotto fighting Canelo instead of GGG - that's the logical business move. However people don't like the fact that Cotto keeps lineal MW belt hostage - that's the only problem. Drop the belt and than fight who ever you want.

[bigjavi973]

Ward's lawyer sent HBO an email. lol
Ward's first fight in 19 months is a catchweight tune up vs another(low level) SMW.
Virgil Hunter said they are looking at 2 or 3 tune ups before fighting anybody, he also said GGG isn't a tune up fight.
David Itskowich said that the timing is NOT right for GGG vs Ward right now.
This is explained to you people in every thread.
There are articles ON THIS WEBSITE about this ****.
Why don't you understand it yet?

His lawyer "legally" speaks for him. Yes I already said in other posts that hes fighting 2 tunes ups. After that? Will GGG's team excuse still be that it makes no financial sense?

[HeroBando]

His lawyer "legally" speaks for him. Yes I already said in other posts that hes fighting 2 tunes ups. After that? Will GGG's team excuse still be that it makes no financial sense?

Depends on the offer, if they finally make it. Both Roc Nation CEO and Virgil Hunter said the money's not there yet. Hunter also denies Ward had anything to do with any email, not his style:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDgXh1Uqa-8

[TudorMiron]

As the winner of the Super Six and Olympic Gold medalist, Ward has more right to talk than anyone between 160lbs and 175lbs. Because I can't think of anyone within that range that can equal Ward's accomplishments.

In spite of Ward's contractual disputes that kept him sidelined, he is still the current Lineal/WBA(Super) super-middleweight champion, and former WBC super-middleweight champion.

Someone show me another between 160lbs and 175lbs that has those accomplishments.

How about Kovalev that holds 3 belts? That's may be not as great for some but this is CURRENT accomplishment. What you are talking about is long past.