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  • mathed
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    #421
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    The real reason why Cotto wont fight GGG, is the exact same reason why Golovkin will not fight Ward, and you know it.
    The reason why a MW won't fight another MW champion who also is his mandatory is the same as the reason why a MW champion won't jump up and fight the SMW champion?

    Well, one case has a guy fighting a guy one weight division above where he fights and the other has two guys in the same weight division. Kinda seems like these are two different scenarios to me.

    Obviously, the guy won't fight the guy in the higher weight class because he wants to challenge for another title in his mandatory fight with the champion in his current weight class.

    Not sure what could be the reason for why the MW champ doesn't want to fight his mandatory challenger.

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      #422
      Originally posted by pacmanis1
      Having GGG's nuts firmly in my lungs I can attest to the fact that he doesn't have a sandy vag1na like Cotto. Dem Puerto Rican beaches are bad news.
      Well, Pacquiao was too scared to rematch Cotto at 150, despite having previously beaten him..... so, I dont listen to that " coward " talk from pacfans.

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      • Jubei
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        #423
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        Well, Pacquiao was too scared to rematch Cotto at 150, despite having previously beaten him..... so, I dont listen to that " coward " talk from pacfans.
        You have been slapped left and right, knocked down several times and proven wrong a hundred times but your hatred doesnt end, you still keep going. Are you a GGG fan in despise that wants to keep GGG threads active and buzzing?

        If not, you're not just making a fool out of yourself but out of all the anti GGG agenda on this forum. Never has GGG and his fans looked better if that's all what youre coming up with is biased hatred that gets proven false over and over again.

        But don't worry GGG is still smiling humbly upon you, who have been blinded by hate. GGG is real champion and he is here to stay.

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          #424
          Originally posted by mathed
          The reason why a MW won't fight another MW champion who also is his mandatory is the same as the reason why a MW champion won't jump up and fight the SMW champion?

          Well, one case has a guy fighting a guy one weight division above where he fights and the other has two guys in the same weight division. Kinda seems like these are two different scenarios to me.
          You know that Cotto weighed 153 for Geale.

          You KNOW that Cotto is not a genuine middleweight.

          Cotto weighs 153, and Golovkin weighs 160.

          It is exactly the same fkn thing, and you know it, stop with the bullshht !

          The ONLY difference is, Cotto did not state that he would fight ANYONE from 154-168.

          Originally posted by mathed
          Obviously, the guy won't fight the guy in the higher weight class because he wants to challenge for another title in his mandatory fight with the champion in his current weight class.
          Bullshht !

          Hypekin is happy to fight Chavez, or Froch, and yet neither have titles.

          Originally posted by mathed
          Not sure what could be the reason for why the MW champ doesn't want to fight his mandatory challenger.
          Well, I'm not sure why a supposed killer who does not have a meaningful win on his resume..... is not desperate to establish himself among the worlds best.

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            #425
            Originally posted by Jubei
            You have been slapped left and right, knocked down several times and proven wrong a hundred times but your hatred doesnt end, you still keep going. Are you a GGG fan in despise that wants to keep GGG threads active and buzzing?

            If not, you're not just making a fool out of yourself but out of all the anti GGG agenda on this forum. Never has GGG and his fans looked better if that's all what youre coming up with is biased hatred that gets proven false over and over again.

            But don't worry GGG is still smiling humbly upon you, who have been blinded by hate. GGG is real champion and he is here to stay.

            Show me where I have been proven wrong once.

            BTW, you stated hundreds, so I am going to hold you to at least one.

            Link me, or fcuk off you whiney b1tch !

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              #426
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              You know that Cotto weighed 153 for Geale.

              You KNOW that Cotto is not a genuine middleweight.

              Cotto weighs 153, and Golovkin weighs 160.

              It is exactly the same fkn thing, and you know it, stop with the bullshht !

              The ONLY difference is, Cotto did not state that he would fight ANYONE from 154-168.



              Bullshht !

              Hypekin is happy to fight Chavez, or Froch, and yet neither have titles.



              Well, I'm not sure why a supposed killer who does not have a meaningful win on his resume..... is not desperate to establish himself among the worlds best.
              No ****. Fight two guys who are more popular than Ward to boost his brand--- when he can probably beat both? Or fight a guy he would lose to unless he fought a drained Ward at a catch-weight?


              What do you think is the better business deal? This is his JOB. He's in the sport to make money. He'll do what's best for him and his family. He can fight Ward down the line at the end of his career when Ward has already been fighting.

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                #427
                Originally posted by Jubei
                You have been slapped left and right, knocked down several times and proven wrong a hundred times but your hatred doesnt end, you still keep going. Are you a GGG fan in despise that wants to keep GGG threads active and buzzing?

                If not, you're not just making a fool out of yourself but out of all the anti GGG agenda on this forum. Never has GGG and his fans looked better if that's all what youre coming up with is biased hatred that gets proven false over and over again.

                But don't worry GGG is still smiling humbly upon you, who have been blinded by hate. GGG is real champion and he is here to stay.

                So, I have been proven wrong HUNDREDS of times, right ?

                And, Golovkin has beaten HUNDREDS of good opponents, right ?

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                  #428
                  Originally posted by SniXSniPe
                  No ****. Fight two guys who are more popular than Ward to boost his brand--- when he can probably beat both? Or fight a guy he would lose to unless he fought a drained Ward at a catch-weight?

                  What do you think is the better business deal? This is his JOB. He's in the sport to make money. He'll do what's best for him and his family. He can fight Ward down the line at the end of his career when Ward has already been fighting.
                  I agree with you. The real reason why Cotto wont fight GGG, is the exact same reason why Golovkin will not fight Ward.

                  Because he cant win the fight.

                  NOTE: I am a Cotto fan.

                  See the difference between the average Cotto fan and the average GGG fan.

                  Good post !

                  But your admission certainly buries that " avoided killer " bullshht !

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                    #429
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    Show me where I have been proven wrong once.

                    BTW, you stated hundreds, so I am going to hold you to at least one.

                    Link me, or fcuk off you whiney b1tch !
                    1.) About ducking other fighters

                    Proof you're wrong #1

                    For a start you have been saying that GGG is not fighting real threats / ducking good competition, but it is a fact that he called out everyone in his weightclass and would move up / down for a PPV fight. GGG is ducking no one, the MW division is.

                    Additionally, since you ignored the facts from Nathan, i will quote him here

                    Here are a list of fighters that Golovkin tried to fight:

                    -Felix Sturm. Golovkin was mandatory for two years and Sturm avoided him. His ex-manager even said they paid the WBA $750,000 so that they wouldn't enforce the mandatory.

                    -Sergio Martinez. When he was lineal champ Golovkin obviously wanted a fight, Lou DiBella said "who the f uck is Golovkin?" and they ended up cherry picking Cotto only for that to backfire badly.

                    -Dmitry Pirog. Golovkins HBO debut was originally scheduled against Pirog. Unfortunately Pirog injured his back during training camp again and pulled out. Proksa stepped in on short notice. Sadly Pirog appears to have a career ending injury.

                    -N'dam. He was ordered twice to fight Golovkin. N'dam didn't show up to the purse bid both times.

                    -Chavez Jr. Bob Arum had a minimum of $7m for Chavez, all he had to do is sign a one fight extension. In addition, Chavez would have made $10m his next fight if he beat Golovkin and no less than $5m guaranteed if he lost, even against a bum. Unfortunately Chavez pulled out, didn't sign the one fight contract and got stopped by Fonfara for much less money. So far it's proved to be a poor business decision.

                    -Cotto. Golovkin offered to fight Cotto since he is mandatory to Cotto's WBC middleweight belt, Cotto passed and went with Geale instead.

                    -Peter Quillin. Prior to the network fued, team Golovkin reached out to Quillin for a fight, it was turned down. Quillin said Golovkin had to build his fan base up first in order to be a worthy oppouhh N.Y. hi timing and they tiyg.y n k um yt? right thinknent, despite Peter never headlining his own show.

                    -Carl Froch. Looks like he's going to retire.

                    The only other name you bring up is Lara who is a 154 pound PBC fighter. Again, if Haymon and HBO can work together again, sure go for it. All indications however tell us Haymon/HBO are rivals and not doing business together (same reason we don't see Leo Santa Cruz vs Lomachenko or Kovalev vs Stevenson, etc).
                    2. ) About Ward

                    Proof you're wrong #2:

                    Then you keep bringing up Ward, who is fighting at Light Heavyweight after being inactive for almost 2 years. Both teams were in talks and both teams said the fight wouldnt make sense yet, it needs buildup and Ward's team said it himself on several occasions that he needs "a couple" tuneup fights first:



                    Abel Sanchez, trainer for WBA/IBO/WBC-interim middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin (32-0, 29KOs), is a bit surprised that Andre Ward has ceased his purs




                    What should GGG do? Go to Light Heavyweight and knock out Paul Smith before he enters the ring against Ward and jump into the ring and say, hey I am here to fight you because that random ****** on NSB said so? You cant force nobody to fight you when Ward needs his tuneups first.

                    3.) About Cotto:

                    Proof you're wrong #3

                    They are after the BELT, because GGG wants to be unisputed and lineal MW champ. He only cares about the belt and Cotto has it! Why doesnt he vacate the belt so Gennady can fight another real MW for the belt?

                    Abel Sanchez, trainer of WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady "GGG" Golovkin (33-0, 30KOs), says his boxer is not necessarily chasing a fight with Miguel Cotto


                    You've been proven wrong over and over again and yet you keep going?

                    I wasted enough time with you now.

                    Last edited by Jubei; 06-14-2015, 11:10 PM.

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                      #430
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      Well, Pacquiao was too scared to rematch Cotto at 150, despite having previously beaten him..... so, I dont listen to that " coward " talk from pacfans.
                      Wrong as usual. Pac dropped his bogus Sww belt and said hes not fighting above welter right after the Marg fight but after Cotto taunted him into offering 150, he did. Then Cotto turned tail and ran, to get outboxed by Trout for peanuts

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