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  • Originally posted by PBP View Post
    A clinic of picking apart a one dimensional fighter with a lazy jab, an inability to throw more than a 3 punch combination, no body attack and one who can't transition from defense to offense. Floyd has beaten fighters with more power and more speed than Lara already. That's irrelevant.

    Again, I understand what people are thinking, but Lara isn't the fighter we want him to be. Look deeper than just physical attributes and "slick southpaw style".
    The irony is that the commentators kept going on and on about Lara's ring IQ and technique.

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    • Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
      The irony is that the commentators kept going on and on about Lara's ring IQ and technique.
      It's not ironic because Lara does have a high ring IQ and great technique... Lara is not just another slick black fighter that Floyd is going to figure out with ease(he might figure Lara out but it certainly won't be easy)... And that straight left of Lara's is quick and long unlike Manny with his short arms... or Judah

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      • Originally posted by darius45 View Post
        Right he's the better fighter, thus the better fighter should GET THE FIGHT... The problem is no matchup is going to give the people what they want to see... So to hell with what the people want... Look, this is Floyd Mayweather, one way or another, he's going to dupe the public into paying for his fight... So why not Erislandy Lara? At least he has the tools to actually hit Floyd... Besides Manny, who else might be able to actually land consistently clean enough on Floyd right now? GGG? too big... Thurman? Too slow... Literally, there is one option... Yeah, people will scream and moan they don't want the fight...but it's the best fight available right now... Maybe Floyd is too good and beat everyone... But I would rather pay to watch a slow boring chessmatch between Lara and Floyd, then pay to watch Thurman maybe, just maybe (if i wish upon a star) to land a big punch down the end of the stretch... And I certaintly don't want to watch Khan get picked apart at end of Floyd's long reach....

        Say what you will about Lara but he has the reach and is very, very good at distance control (like Floyd)...Thus a chessmatch...

        And no way in hell does Floyd "put on a clinic" with a guy like Lara
        You're absolutely right. He is the most qualified, battle tested and competitive opponent available right now. I'm just giving my opinion on how the fight will play out.

        I'm not cosigning these other guys crying about entertainment value and PPV buys.

        Fact of the matter is, Floyd just made the most exciting fighter of our generation fight his fight and cruised to an uneventful UD.

        That should tell you right there that just because your exciting in certain Fights doesn't mean you can create excitement against Mayweather.

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        • Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
          The irony is that the commentators kept going on and on about Lara's ring IQ and technique.
          I consider him a smart fighter. He sets up his 1-2s beautifully and can escape in a manner to avoid return fire. He has an excellent sense of distance.

          His biggest weaknesses are just punch variety and shifting gears back and forth from defense to offense.

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          • I wouldn't even try selling this fight yo my friends



            will wait a week for the replay

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            • Originally posted by darius45 View Post
              Well, then that's a serious problem with the perception of boxing that needs to be changed somehow... I'm not sure how....But it's ridiculous that people can't be entertained by Lara's showcase of the sweet science that he put on last night, landing beautiful left hands at will... Lara is a top athlete in the hardest sport, and it's still not enough... Something is seriously messed up....Maybe it's because the U.S. is a pussified country, who knows...
              You may be right but boxing is nowhere near as popular as the other major sports so appealing to the mass market is priority and a Lara fight is just not as enticing. Here in the UK, boxing fans are very passionate and will get behind most of their own fighters but in general, casuals don't appreciate sweet science and just want a scrap.

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              • Originally posted by darius45 View Post
                It's not ironic because Lara does have a high ring IQ and great technique... Lara is not just another slick black fighter that Floyd is going to figure out with ease(he might figure Lara out but it certainly won't be easy)... And that straight left of Lara's is quick and long unlike Manny with his short arms... or Judah
                Lara is undoubtedly one of the toughest match-ups available for Mayweather. However, beating Delvin Rodriguez does nothing to prove how great Lara's ring IQ/technique is. If he would've had a similar performance against Canelo, then I would've been impressed. Lara beat Delvin mainly with his physical attributes and common boxing sense. This wasn't a match-up for Lara to showcase his boxing knowledge; it was meant for him to get a stoppage and look like a monster doing it. When it's time for him to showcase his boxing IQ, what does he do? He gets draws and has close fights with his contemporaries. Lara is stuck at B-level for me; I've yet to see him step outside of his normal routine and surprise me. A recent example of an improving ring IQ is Algeri's style switch because Khan's biggest weakness is pressure. Lara doesn't even have to change his style: more body punching, head-body combinations, longer combos, inside fighting, etc. Delvin was served on a silver platter for Lara to pick his bones completely dry, and like the underachiever he is, Lara just couldn't finish him. I know I'm unfairly criticizing him, but **** it, I'm exhausted with how he handles business in the ring and I'm desperate for him to step it up. He went out of his way to challenge Canelo, but then got on his bike in the ring. I just can't with him anymore. The silver lining tonight is that he didn't move excessively, but why would he have to? He's facing ****in Delvin Rodriguez! Allowing over-matched opposition to survive 12 rounds is never a good look.

                Lara is probably Floyd's toughest challenge available, but he hasn't done what's necessary to completely separate himself from his peers. Therefore, Floyd will continue to ignore him and won't suffer any backlash from it. It's hard to sympathize with Lara's situation when guys like Rodriguez, Ishe Smith and Freddy Hernandez are going the distance. They might be losing decisively, but so what? Lara is doing the bare minimum while chasing the likes of Mayweather. He HAS to do more than that, especially because he presents such a bad risk:reward ratio.
                Last edited by kiaba360; 06-13-2015, 12:24 PM.

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                • Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
                  Lara is probably Floyd's toughest challenge available, but he hasn't done what's necessary to completely separate himself from his peers. Therefore, Floyd will continue to ignore him and won't suffer any backlash from it. It's hard to sympathize with Lara's situation when guys like Rodriguez, Ishe Smith and Freddy Hernandez are going the distance. They might be losing decisively, but so what? Lara is doing the bare minimum while chasing the likes of Mayweather. He HAS to do more than that, especially because he presents such a bad risk:reward ratio.
                  I agree that he could of done more last night, but between him and Khan, he looked better. Khan was supposed to play with Algieri like a cat plays with a mouse, and look at what happened... At least Lara showed up and did what Lara was supposed to do, and he did score one knockdown lets not forget(i know, i know he should of finished him)... I imagine Floyd will announce his decision before the end of the month...

                  If Floyd doesn't fight Lara.... I would absolutely love Cotto-Lara... THAT, imo, is one of the best fights to be made right now... Both solid 154lbers... Cotto has that new power and aggression and can move better than Canelo (so won't necessarily be a perpetual victim to Lara's distance control like Canelo was)... Besides GGG and Canelo, by far the best fight for Cotto...Although I don't see it ever happening...

                  Funny thing is, if Lara was American and not Cuban, everyone would be all over his ****...

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                  • Originally posted by darius45 View Post
                    It's not ironic because Lara does have a high ring IQ and great technique... Lara is not just another slick black fighter that Floyd is going to figure out with ease(he might figure Lara out but it certainly won't be easy)... And that straight left of Lara's is quick and long unlike Manny with his short arms... or Judah
                    If Lara had high ring IQ then he'd attack the body more and he wouldn't continuously paw with the jab, one shouldn't have to measure their opponent that much. Look at Stevenson for example, good physical tools, practically one handed but he'll loop the left hand around the guard and he'll throw it to the body, Lara is not incapable of doing that as frequently.

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                    • Honestly, this fight wouldn't sell at the thrift store.

                      Lara is known to take rounds off which would be bad for him against Floyd. Interesting chess match nonetheless.

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