OFFICIAL: Danny Garcia vs Paulie Malignaggi PBC Fight Poll and Discussion Thread

[NEETzsche]

I don't watch football anymore but is Gary Neville that good?

yeah, although i think he has become a bit of a smart-arse now. it's also possible that he just seems good in contrast to that pair of bell-ends, carragher and redknapp

[NEETzsche]

I think people are just quick to dismiss Paulie as a tomato can for the plain fact that he got clobbered by a bumrushing Shawn Porter. Other than that, Paulie is usually a tough, durable boxer who, much like Peterson, has been in there with a lot of greats. This is NOT the fight you want to take in order to gain respect, though. If you win, you won't look good. If you lose, you'll get called a bum because...that's what every boxer is according to boxingscene when they don't perform to exorbitantly high standards.

the plain fact is that garcia arguably lost two of his last three fights, and the other was such a bad mismatch it was almost criminal. garcia had a great thing going after the khan and matthysse wins, but he has looked awful since then. i'm not sure whether he's taken his foot off the gas in training or what, but he really can't afford another poor performance right now. after paulie i want to see him in with broner

[b00g13man]

Ugh! Not a good fight on paper, but I'd expect Danny to stop him.

I won't be surprised if he looks bad again though.

[Mr. Philadel]

he was supposed to blow out herrera in a homecoming fight down in puerto rico. other fights include super shot judah and morales' corpse in the first one. seemed like people didn't think the peterson fight would be as competitive as it was either, peterson is a good fighter but he's always been a bit of a fringe. expectations have been high for danny ever since he beat khan and squeaked past matthysse. if we're being real, danny struggles with just about everyone he faces.

1) when has Herrera EVER been blown out?!?....did a unbeaten Mike Alverado blow him out?...did a unbeaten Ruslan Provodnikov blow him out?...did a unbeaten Karim Mayfield blow him out?...who has EVER mopped the canvas with Mauricio?

2) Swift beat the sh't outta Zab bro...had 8 rounds in the bank BEFORE Zab got on the scoreboard....he wasn't SUPPOSED to blow Morales out in the first fight....as I remember boxingscene posters were favoring the GREAT Morales due to Swift's inexperience at that time...when a young pup is in with a LEGEND, the pup will make the mistake of giving the LEGEND too much respect...and that's EXACTLY what happened...a puppy was in there with a fighter he watched on TV and idolized as a kid....it was a learning experience for Swift....the rematch proved it

3) just because people didn't SEEM to think Peterson was gonna be competitive doesn't make it TRUE...Peterson has been in with some VERY good comp...I think the triangle theory got the best of the people who SEEMED to think Lamont was gonna get clocked and iced by Swift

4) the expectations were high after Swift DECISIVELY won fights that he was SUPPOSED to DECISIVELY lose....so that's the reason why people say he's struggled with the others....he beat Lucas DECISIVELY...I wouldn't call that squeaking by

[Mr. Philadel]

Morales, Judah, Herrera, PEDerson.

check my response to Body Movin'

[Mr. Philadel]

Boxingscene in a nutshell:

"OMG! I can't wait 'til Danny gets stomped on by Matthysse! LULZ! It's gonna' be awesome!"

"Danny got lucky! He's just lucky that Matthysse's eye got swollen."

"Herrera got robbed! Danny looked bad! He's a freaking BUM!"

"Rod Salka knocked out?! PFFFFFFF!!!"<---Legit complaint I'll give you this one.

"Garcia got ANOTHER gift decision against Peterson! He can't even beat Peterson clearly! Again, he's a BUM!"

Here's the nitty gritty:

-Lucas Matthysse was built up as this guy who would bulldoze Garcia and it didn't happen. You can cry for a rematch all you want, it might be there in the future, so stop whining and give Garcia for making you eat your words.

-I haven't sat down to watch the Herrera fight, but I am going to give you guys the benefit of the doubt and assume Danny looked bad. The problem with this is that people will start to blow things way out of proportion and make it sound like he got shut out 12-0 or that Herrera looked spectacular. Neither was the case. People cry robbery over everything. Robbery would be Margarito getting a decision against Pacquiao, Pavlik getting a decision over Hopkins, Martinez winning 120-108 had he made it to the final bell against Cotto.

-Salka? I'll give you some haterade on that one. You're right. It was a poor opponent made to be a palate cleanser from the Herrera fight.

-He beat Peterson. And that's not a knock on Garcia for not looking as spectacular as Matthysse. Peterson is a VERY solid contender who's been in there with the likes of Timothy Bradley, Amir Khan, Victor Ortiz, Lucas Matthysse, and now Danny Garcia...all with varied and respectable performances with the only exception being the early TKO loss to Matthysse.

In regards to Malignaggi:

I think people are just quick to dismiss Paulie as a tomato can for the plain fact that he got clobbered by a bumrushing Shawn Porter. Other than that, Paulie is usually a tough, durable boxer who, much like Peterson, has been in there with a lot of greats. This is NOT the fight you want to take in order to gain respect, though. If you win, you won't look good. If you lose, you'll get called a bum because...that's what every boxer is according to boxingscene when they don't perform to exorbitantly high standards.

good post!!!

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

He won the fight lol don't give me that robbery bullshlt. That is what boxing has become now. But since it's the machine killer you're extra sensitive about it

I call it how I see it. A spade is a spade. Yall always think this has to do with it being Garcia. Matthysse would had gotten the same **** if he fought another tune up after Molina.

[alexguiness]

The hate for Danny Swift is strong...

Yes, he was gifted the Herrera fight, and Salka was a joke but...

Paulie at 147 has some credibility.

I think...

The problem is that Danny needs another big performance, and I am not sure that beating Paulie will help him overcome his critics.

Paulie can be hard to look good against, unless you are Shawn Porter.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

But you'll watch Kov won't you. He's at -10000 odd if you didn't know

At least Kovalev will give your money's worth while Garcia gives you robberies.

[Crazylegs77]

Wow, I thought this was a sarcastic joke thread at first.

When they gonna stop giving Danny tune ups and gift decisions? Danny "Gift" Garcia