Can we stop saying GGG is picking on Cotto and or Canelo

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  • joesaiditstrue
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    #91
    i also find it ****ing hilarious that for the first time in the history of boxing, a mandatory challenger doesn't have the right to call the main guy out because the main guy is "too small doe"

    are you ****ing serious right now

    ****ing morons

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    • i'm a fun haver
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      #92
      Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
      what's so hard to understand here Kev?

      Cotto and Canelo both bring something to the fight that benefits GGG

      Ward doesn't, Lara doesn't, they bring pure risk (according to some people), and no reward

      You can sit here and say "GGG doesn't deserve a money fight until he's proven himself first", but the fact is he's getting paid handsomely by HBO regardless of who he's fighting and he's developing a massive fanbase even with a weak resume. This means he has the right to aim for lucrative fights before 'resume building' fights. He's tried getting those big names at 160 but none are willing to step up. Right now, it looks like the only possibility at 160 will be the winner of N'dam/Lemieux which IMO would be the best opponent GGG has faced thus far.

      Instead of naming unknown guys a division below him who bring literally nothing to the table (Lara), or guys a division above him who bring literally nothing to the table (Ward), tell me again why you can't understand why he wants the Cottos/Canelos/Frochs/Chavez' of the world? You can't be this thickheaded
      Regarding the N'Dam-Lemieux winner.
      Need to see what the IBF has for the winner
      If they get a voluntary, would either one use it to unify with GGG?
      Nowadays it seems like after a guy wins a title they have an easier hometown first defense. I think the IBF calls for a mandatory defense every 9 months in most cases.
      I have no confidence that N'Dam would ever fight GGG especially after finally winning a title. Lemieux maybe.

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      • joesaiditstrue
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        #93
        Originally posted by i'm a fun haver
        Regarding the N'Dam-Lemieux winner.
        Need to see what the IBF has for the winner
        If they get a voluntary, would either one use it to unify with GGG?
        Nowadays it seems like after a guy wins a title they have an easier hometown first defense. I think the IBF calls for a mandatory defense every 9 months in most cases.
        I have no confidence that N'Dam would ever fight GGG especially after finally winning a title. Lemieux maybe.
        lampley and kellermann have both said that HBO wants the lemieux/ggg fight, so i'm guessing they're willing to pay both guys well for it

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        • mick1303
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          #94
          Originally posted by LarryXXX
          Why does he have to move up instead of fighting people in his own division?
          It is quite simple ))) Because these posters know what would happen if their favorite fighters will fight GGG. And they want this roadbloack lifted. Which is why they are pushing GGG to go up. He is not growing, though. In his 30s he makes 160 with a margin. They just want him to be at disadvantage...

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            #95
            Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
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            Of course he'd make more fighting Froch, but he fought Monroe not Froch. You game is weak son.
            ...

            You're so full of it!!! As is he had Froch fight on the table and refused it and went for Monroe instead... He fights people, who agree to fight him.

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            • Beater_of_ass
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              #96
              Originally posted by mick1303
              You're so full of it!!! As is he had Froch fight on the table and refused it and went for Monroe instead... He fights people, who agree to fight him.
              I never said that... He took Monroe instead of Lara.

              Lara is not a big a payday as Froch, I never said it was. It's CERTAINLY a bigger payday than Monroe and a fight beating Lara garners more respect than beating an ESPN/FOX Sports fighter, even if Lara is a JMW. Normally I end posts here but people can't comprehend what I mean so let me elaborate.

              GGG passed up a bigger payday to face an easier fighter. That's fine, but you don't get to complain that no one wants to fight you. What's worse is they picked Monroe because they said he was more well known than Lara. These are the facts, GGG is a good fighter but his team has given him the easiest road possible and when even slightly questioned, like his fans, they become the most defensive, excuse driven group in boxing.

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              • Beater_of_ass
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                #97
                Originally posted by RAV3N
                Looks like beater of ass is one of them wannabe promoters and not an actual boxing fan.

                I cant stand them type of promoter fans.

                Cotto just needs to drop the 160 belts, problem solved.


                A real boxing fan wants to see competitive fights. GGG has been in one tough fight in his career. You know who else is in the GGG position of unable to land a big fight? Rigo.

                You know who else b*tches about not getting big fights yet refuses to move up in weight Rigo.

                Who do I **** on for facing guys he'll easily beat while complaining "woe is me?" Rigo.

                It's called not being a sissy fanboy who gets scared everytime someone says "move up." I'm not saying this because GGG has to, I'm saying he should if he wants RESPECT. Of all things GGG is missing the most other than fans, it's respect. Ward, just hit on exactly why. I know GGG is a good fighter, I know he is a monster. Whether some guy has the title or not, when GGG calls out two guys he's be 10-1 favorites against, why should I impressed with that? Only GGG fans find anything courageous about that, I don't.

                See, Cotto is the MW champion and he should fight GGG. I can't make him, but unlike you GGG fans I understand this and just say GGG's best option is to move up. He can literally wait until next June, at which point Cotto decides he doesn't want the title anymore after beating Canelo. GGG is left at MW, with a title he won via VICIOUS paperwork KO. He won't get Cotto then, and who wants to see him fight Canelo after a loss after Cotto ruined him?

                So, again his best bet is to move up. But see, when you say that you GGG fans get so defensive it's insane. You apparently are a fan of this great monster yet you only want to see him fight ex JWW and you pathetic "fans" are proud of that? No, I have an understanding of boxing that you've yet to comprehend it's called analyzing. When you get off your knee's and fluffing GGG maybe you'll begin to see the big picture. Until then you're fan of a guy who is fine taking the easiest fights possible, waiting for the easiest way possible to become a "star."

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                • Fantasiabruja
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                  #98
                  The problem is that GGG's shot at stardom is dependent on a Cotto or Canelo fight and if neither guy gets in the ring with him his career will be left in limbo. Unless of course if he moves up which IMO is not fair to the guy because it's not like he struggles with making the MW limit. But your right we should stop saying he is picking on little Cotto. But what people are missing with Cotto and the whole "I'm not a MW" statement is that he is not saying he doesn't belong in the MW or that he won't fight MW's what he is saying is that he will fight them but they have to fight him at a CW to balance out the natural size deference.

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                  • SAN D13GO VILLAN
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by mick1303
                    It is quite simple ))) Because these posters know what would happen if their favorite fighters will fight GGG. And they want this roadbloack lifted. Which is why they are pushing GGG to go up. He is not growing, though. In his 30s he makes 160 with a margin. They just want him to be at disadvantage...
                    The thing is that nobody at 160 can hang with GGG, so why not move up and look for better challenges? He makes it look to easy and I want to see him in a WAR.

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                    • Beater_of_ass
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by SAN D13GO VILLAN
                      The thing is that nobody at 160 can hang with GGG, so why not move up and look for better challenges? He makes it look to easy and I want to see him in a WAR.
                      GGG fans think they're real boxing fans. They aren't. Like you say real boxing fans like to see competitive match ups, GGG fans just want to see early KO's. Pretty easy to spot who the real boxing fans are, you're one of them. Green K sent.

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