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  • Barcham
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    #231
    Originally posted by JRB123
    I know right...not the likes of Porter/Thurman, but this one will suffice...

    By the way, didn't PBC have that Garcia/Peterson fight which was the best fight that could be made at the 140 pound division?
    You mean the fight that happened at a catchweight and had no title at stake and led to Peterson being stripped of his title? That was a great example of a missed opportunity. It should have been a unification fight and they dropped the ball big time.

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    • Cuban Linx
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      #232
      Pretty sure this fight is not going to happen. It has nothing to do with the Haymon ban or anything like that.

      GGG simply has other options. The most likely being the winner of NDam and Lemiuex later in the year. Or even Andy Lee (less likely). Or if he somehow secures a fight between the winner of Cotto-Canelo then he'll probably fight a lower tier opponent before he faces one of them.

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        #233
        Originally posted by JRB123
        I know right...not the likes of Porter/Thurman, but this one will suffice...

        By the way, didn't PBC have that Garcia/Peterson fight which was the best fight that could be made at the 140 pound division?
        Turned out to be a good fight too.

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        • i'm a fun haver
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          #234
          Originally posted by PBP
          Broner vs Porter is a great fight that I've wanted to see for years.
          Absolutely disgusting.
          Broner wants to fight at a sub 147 catchweight, he should fight Danny Garcia.
          Porter should be fighting Thurman.
          Porter vs Broner is a garbage fight

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          • JRB123
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            #235
            Originally posted by Cuban Linx
            Pretty sure this fight is not going to happen. It has nothing to do with the Haymon ban or anything like that.

            GGG simply has other options. The most likely being the winner of NDam and Lemiuex later in the year. Or even Andy Lee (less likely). Or if he somehow secures a fight between the winner of Cotto-Canelo then he'll probably fight a lower tier opponent before he faces one of them.
            Forgot about N'Dam-Lemieux next Saturday...GGG could collect another belt but I would want GGG-Lee before GGG against either one of those guys

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              #236
              Originally posted by OnePunch
              actually, its NOT confusing to anyone with higher than a 4th grade education. But you obviously dont like GGG. We get that. Its a free country. You can dislike anyone you choose. Just dont act like somehow FACTS or LOGIC will sway your opinion, because they wont.

              But just for giggles, its raining and is a slow day at the store so I will try and address your points:

              1. You claim Lara is willing to fight anyone. Great. Who (besides you and maybe 10 other people) even cares? His fights are about as exciting as a 2nd coat of paint. He's not ranked at 160, holds no titles at 160, and is not a mando at 160. Other than satisfying 10 internet trolls (who 10 minutes after the fight wil be here complaining that GGG is picking on jr middleweights), what purpose does a Lara fight serve?
              Many genuine boxing fans currently regard Golovkin as a hypejob with a shht resume. Lara would.....
              1) give Golovkin some validation
              2) be the best name on his weak resume'
              3) show that GGG can potentially deal with the style of Ward/Dirrell, etc

              Originally posted by OnePunch
              2. GGG will fight anyone from 154-168. True. His team has said MANY MANY times that their main focus is to unify 160, but they would go down to 154 or up to 168 for BIG fights. 154 for Floyd or Pac, 168 for Chavez or Froch. Up until today, the only statement on record from Lara (not his manager) was a video of him saying he was 154, and was staying at 154. So he wasnt in the discussion, because GGG aint going to 154 to fight Lara. Now Laras team says 160, so we'll see. There are promotional obstacles to overcome (Haymon/HBO), and who knows if HBO would even buy Lara, but at least its something that can NOW be discussed.
              I dont see the issue here. Lara has offered to fight Golovkin at 160 more than once, so if he is prepared to enter into a legitimate negotiation based on that premise, how can anybody assume that he wouldn't ?

              Weight/money simply cannot be used as an excuse to avoid Lara.

              If Golovkin wants to fight 153lb Cotto, then obviously Lara is not too small.

              And if GGG is prepared to fight for Willie Monroe paydays, he can fight Lara.

              Originally posted by OnePunch
              3. Lara calls out Floyd-GGG, etc: Again, nobody cares. Lara is horrible to watch, and cant sell out the first 3 rows of a school bus. He talked himself into the Canelo fight, and then stunk out the place. Im not sure people fall for his act again. But if there is no better option for GGG Sept fight, then maybe he gets it.
              He would be Golovkins best win, you cant spin that.

              Again, does Willie Monroe sell out the MGM ?

              Golovkin currently has the resume that he wanted, if he didnt like it, he would change it.

              Keep fighting the Monroes.

              Folks keep referring to Golovkin as this killer, and as a top fighter, blah, blah..... but what would people say if Floyd Mayweather selected a Monroe level opponent?

              Golovkin is hyped !

              Originally posted by OnePunch
              4. GGG supporters accept Monroe. etc: We dont have a choice. The Cottos, Frochs, etc dont seem to want to fight him. And just because 10 people rate Lara higher than Monroe or Murray, that doesnt make it a sellable fight to the promoters, or the network, and theirs is the only opinion that matters.
              I accept that.

              But, let me explain to you why I respect Canelo far more than I respect Hypekin.

              Hoya had attempted to steer Canelo away from Lara on numerous occasions.

              When Hoya was in rehab, Schaeffer made the Lara fight.

              Hoya was fuming.

              Canelo DEMANDED Lara !

              There were no money excuses from Canelo, no style excuses.

              Canelo and Lara will fight anyone, unlike Golovkin it seems.

              So, GGG fans will continue to hear about Golovkins poor opponent selection.

              Originally posted by OnePunch
              5. GGG-Lara can happen: We dont know this. None if us here know the TRUE status of the HBO-Haymon relationship. Would HBO put a Haymon fighter on? Would Haymon allow Lara to fight off-PBC? Would Lara actualy take the fight at 160 or is todays press release just Decubas talking out his a**? These are questions we dont know the answers to yet.

              For the record, I think its a garbage fight, and Golovkin ghouls Lara inside 6 rounds, but it would forever shut up the "but but Lara doe" idiots, so im fine with the fight.
              Agreed !

              Be interesting to see if Team Golovkin feel the same way.

              BTW, I do understand your point.

              I feel the same way about Ward/Kovalev.

              I am more than happy for that fight to get made.

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              • aboutfkntime
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                #237
                Originally posted by Mr. Philadel
                fans don't expect much from GGG....the opponent expectation standard is quite low with dude....anybody who complains about him beating Lara is just hating....I would give him his props even though I would favor him...it's just a good name to add to the graveyard that's all
                I agree, and I dont necessarily think that Lara can beat Golovkin either.

                But Golovkin needs to face higher level opponents considering his hype.

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                  #238
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  Many genuine boxing fans currently regard Golovkin as a hypejob with a shht resume.
                  That's... not the case at all. GGG is a good fighter with a ****ty resume. The problem is that's not enough for GGG fans. If you don't think GGG is on Floyd/Cotto/Canelo level (in terms of drawing power) then you want to see him fail at life and die. I don't get the insecurity, maybe it was the Monroe fight...

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                  • dirty fingers
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                    #239
                    Originally posted by JRB123
                    I know right...not the likes of Porter/Thurman, but this one will suffice...

                    By the way, didn't PBC have that Garcia/Peterson fight which was the best fight that could be made at the 140 pound division?
                    It was a good matchup, but it was at the 143 pound division.

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                      #240
                      Originally posted by i'm a fun haver
                      Yes. Fight at 160lbs and be able to fight on HBO.
                      It's what I've been saying the whole ****ing time, you mongoloid!
                      The "hoops" that you cry about Lara having to jump through is what needs to happen to make this fight.
                      Read the article. Lara is willing to fight at 160. In order for him to get onto HBO, Tom Loeffler has to pitch his name to HBO and then make him an offer.

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