Comments Thread For: Gennady Golovkin's Promoter on Facing James DeGale

[Mike_R]

I'm more interested in seeing GGG pursue dominance of the middleweight division and becoming the undisputed at 160.

GGG has momentum but he isn't a PPV headliner yet. I do want to see him fight some of these guys up at 168...

…But I also want to see him fight Quillin, Alvarez, maybe Cotto (although I still don't think it's a particularly great match up purely based on size) and whoever else might pop up as a legitimate challenge during the course of getting these other fights made.

Once you move up, it seems to me that it's harder to move back down without sacrificing something. I know it's different for everybody though. I just want to see Golovkin leave no doubts down at 160 before he makes the jump.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Calm down Dirk. The shoe isn't on either foot because there is no fucking shoe.

This is a pointless article written for no other reason than that linking GGG with anybody at 168, however tenuous the link may be, is guaranteed to provoke a reaction.

And some of Golovkin's fans are also fans of DeGale, btw, including me.



All they did was state the truth - that DeGale, however good he may be, wouldn't pay as much as Froch. And it's not like Chunky even wants to fight GGG himself. Like I said, it's a pointless article, written only to provoke a reaction.

The shoe being that Golovkin's hype is built off everyone being scared of him and him being willing to fight anyone from 154-168.

It's a myth. They're gonna take the step-aside money from Cotto and fight some no name journeyman in the interim.

[Eastcoast]

the other dude says GGG is gunning for Nelo, Cotto and Floyd....3 of the top 4 draws in the sport...the money dudes....and you're saying a fat offer is the only way to get GGG in with Ward...the BEST fighter in the sport not named Floyd Mayweather Jr.....so we can agree that GGG is not REALLY trying to unify the 160 division...he's in the check cashing business...right?...so how much would you think it will cost for GGG to sell his "0" to Ward...just asking...me and Hov are facebook friends maybe I can drop a bug in his box

Why would you say he's not trying to unify the MW division? You know very well IBF, WBC, and WBO are tied up waiting on other fights. You also know the deal he signed with Chavez had a $2mill guarantee. Ward has a $2mill guarantee for himself that he can't even cover because he doesn't draw enough.

Ward may very well be 2nd best lb/lb, but he doesn't draw because his style sucks. Loeffler said if RN wants to financially back the fight, then it can happen. He's had discussions with Itskowitch and they agreed 2016 after Ward's rebuilt his image some and they feel better about this on ppv.

Like you pointed out, Golovkin's "0", has value just like Ward's "0" has value. Ward ain't jumping to fight Kovalev because he wants his reward to cover his risk. Same with GGG fighting at SMW. He's got momentum at 160, he's not risking it in a hug fest against a bigger, faster guy for the same money he's making at 160. Twist however you want for your hate agenda, that's reality and it's the same for every fighter out there. Especially the ones fighting Rod Salka instead of real fights at the weight they pretend to represent.

[bigjavi973]

Are you playing ignorant again? You know full well Golovkin would make big money vs Froch & Chavez. The Chavez fight from a year ago was a guaranteed minimum of $2mill, with ppv upside, and not including foreign tv money. Furthermore Froch & Chavez bring bigger ratings than Ward, translating to bigger money in future fights.

Again, so GGG is about money. Not glory or anything like that. Plenty of fighters now a days move up. PPV or not. They want the recognition. "Wow he moved up weight and STILL dominated. Very impressive". GGG's fans won't get that chance and it's actually sad especially since now the weight divisions are so much closer together.

Again, he'll move up for chavez jr/froch but not ward (who beat froch btw, oh thats right ward "has no fans, isn't a draw blah blah blah"

[bigjavi973]

the other dude says GGG is gunning for Nelo, Cotto and Floyd....3 of the top 4 draws in the sport...the money dudes....and you're saying a fat offer is the only way to get GGG in with Ward...the BEST fighter in the sport not named Floyd Mayweather Jr.....so we can agree that GGG is not REALLY trying to unify the 160 division...he's in the check cashing business...right?...so how much would you think it will cost for GGG to sell his "0" to Ward...just asking...me and Hov are facebook friends maybe I can drop a bug in his box

GGG's team is so full of ****. I can't believe his fans don't see it (again I said his team, not GGG himself).

Before Cotto won the belt

"I'll fight anyone 154-168"

After Cotto wins the belt:

"I want to unify first. 168 ppv only"

Damn his team changed their minds quick on what they wanted to do.

[Eastcoast]

Again, so GGG is about money. Not glory or anything like that. Plenty of fighters now a days move up. PPV or not. They want the recognition. "Wow he moved up weight and STILL dominated. Very impressive". GGG's fans won't get that chance and it's actually sad especially since now the weight divisions are so much closer together.

Again, he'll move up for chavez jr/froch but not ward (who beat froch btw, oh thats right ward "has no fans, isn't a draw blah blah blah"

What the hell are you spewing? Guys move up either because they outgrow their weight class or because they can make more money. Tito and Cotto both fit that.

The economics of fighting Ward are clear as day, unless you have a hate agenda. Ward can't even cover his own minimum guarantee which is why he's fighting on BET.

Cotto was killing himself to make 140. He was over JMW in the ring when he fought there. He then moved out of 147 after getting his ass kicked by Toney, struggling with Clottey, and getting it kicked again vs Pac. He moved up for easy prey vs Foreman, a light-hitting, limited fighter. Cotto didn't go after any of the regular top JMW's. No, he went after a re-used Mayorga for more easy money (except it wasn't as easy as he thought). Then he get's beat by Floyd and Austin and again needs to move up and fight a crippled Martinez. Now he's weight draining guys and pretending to be a bad ass.

Tito was special, but he still did it for the money. Reid & Vargas were big time money. Joppy & Hopkins were big time money. He wouldn't have seen that money defending the WW title vs Forrest and didn't want to be B-side vs Oscar and risk Oscar not running.

[Beater_of_ass]

Nonito didn't have fk all fans, gtfo with that **** example.

He hasn't won a belt in 2 years because the remaining belts are with people that are currently avoiding him or with promoters that make the fight difficult to make. The other are currently fighting for the vacant title (IBF).

Damn you're dense.

So GGG for two years hasn't been able to unify or get a PPV fight... How is that Cotto's fault it sounds like a REALLY REALLY ****ty promoting company. He can't stop talking about unification or PPV and in 2 years hasn't done either one. Dense?

I'm not the GGG fan begging and pleading for everything to go his way then cry like a b*tch about it when it doesn't.

Also, what does having "**** all" fans have to do with PPV or moving up in weight? So GGG is such a draw he has fans but he's also begging for fights? GGG fans are hands down the best at making excuses, that's quite a feat I have to admit.

[SteveM]

Froch vs. Golovkin a PPV in the states. You've gotta be kidding me.

It could do 150,000 in the States and 150K/250K in the UK where Froch is a big name. Considering neither fighter has done PPV before 300,000 total is not a bad start. From acorns grow mighty oaks - yadda yadda.

[SteveM]

Boxingscene is to a single interview, what an 1800's Cherokee Indian is to a freshly killed buffalo - they'll make meals out of it for weeks til nothing's been untouched a few times.

Only Fighthype out-do Boxingscene. They have an army of video editors looking to chop up all the 10 minute interviews into 30 second / 1 minute sound bytes. And we all consume like the good boy consumers we are.

[kafkod]

The shoe being that Golovkin's hype is built off everyone being scared of him and him being willing to fight anyone from 154-168.

It's a myth. They're gonna take the step-aside money from Cotto and fight some no name journeyman in the interim.

It's an undeniable fact that GGG has been and still is being avoided by the big names in his own division. But his team have never tried to make out that everybody from 154 to 168 is scared to fight him, if that's what you are saying.

What Sanchez actually said was that he believed GGG would KO everybody from 154 to 168, and that they would consider moving either up or down if they got the right offer.

As for the step aside money, they said after that Cotto/Geale that they hadn't been offered anything, and that the title was what GGG wanted.

But it looks like the WBC have already decided that Cotto and Canelo are going to fight for their MW belt next, whatever Golovkin does or doesn't want.