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  • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
    The only thing that is gonna make Pbc succeed is if they step up the match making..

    UFC grew because even though PRIDE had lots of talented fighters, ufc always matched their guys tough... They have always been good at making a divisional champ and contenders fight top opponents...

    Haymon has the roster, but his matchmaking needs to step up, otherwise it's no better than hbo, showtimr etc..
    It's not a coincidence that the best fights on pbc so far have been the best matchups..
    Haymon needs to be making his guys fight it out, the cream will rise to the top...

    No one is gonna get excited about lackluster matchups, let alone casual fans...
    Matchups weak but fights have been good. Give me good fights over paper good fights any day of the week.

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    • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
      I like F1 lol, although some seasons are better than others.
      Another example is the NBA salary cap is skyrocketing because of a fantastic new TV deal..

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      • Originally posted by Fetta View Post
        Matchups weak but fights have been good. Give me good fights over paper good fights any day of the week.
        No matter the matchup their is always the possibilty of a dud (manny-floyd)

        But showcase fights won't interest anyone, even in hindsight they ending up being good..

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        • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
          No matter the matchup their is always the possibilty of a dud (manny-floyd)

          But showcase fights won't interest anyone, even in hindsight they ending up being good..
          Yes potentoal for dud is always there in ANY sport but you watch for maybe something you didnt expect and thats been PBC for me. More good than bad

          Like i said in another thread, maybe the match makers are better than thought

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          • I'd like to see the numbers for the ratings whatever program was on in the same time slot as PBC is compared to PBC's ratings for each network.

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            • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
              Yea it is not that hard to work around~

              If his numbers just stay the same he will get a fat TV contract at the end, I guarantee it. Sports are on a totally different scale, than scripted or reality TV because people have to watch them live. So you really don't get the dynamics going on at all, because sports are the be all and end all with TV right now, stuff with worse ratings (soccer or hockey) have major TV deals. Even NBA and MLB have bad ratings compared to the highest rated shows.
              NHL ratings embarrass PBC ratings. As has been repeatedly said, boxing cannot be compared to major league team sports. The money is nowhere near the same and the value of boxing as a whole does not approach the value of ONE major league sports franchise, not to mention the entire league.

              Originally posted by BWC View Post
              Sports properties are going through the roof because you are exactly correct, it's the only thing people watch in real time. The same fund that invested in PBC invested $1.5 billion on Formula 1. Formula 1!!! Who in the heck watches Formula 1?

              Any TV sports assets are going to get mega-valuations at this point..
              Who watches F1? Other than soccer, it is probably the second most watched sport in the world. And once again, you are comparing a sport that cannot be compared to boxing in any way, shape or form. That is the problem with Americans, they think the world begins and ends with them and the rest of the world does not matter.

              People around here really are not that bright are they?

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              • Originally posted by BWC View Post
                Another example is the NBA salary cap is skyrocketing because of a fantastic new TV deal..

                Once again, a sport and a deal that cannot be compared to boxing in any way. How often does your favorite team play a game? How often does your favorite boxer fight? Give it a bit of thought. If your NBA team only played twice a year, do you think it would have much of a following?

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                • Originally posted by Barcham View Post
                  Once again, a sport and a deal that cannot be compared to boxing in any way. How often does your favorite team play a game? How often does your favorite boxer fight? Give it a bit of thought. If your NBA team only played twice a year, do you think it would have much of a following?
                  You're just missing the point man. ANY moderately successfulk Sports TV asset is worth a very nice chunk of change right now

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                  • Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
                    I use this to keep up with all the fights around the world:
                    http://boxingschedule.boxingsociety.com/

                    Your point is valid though, PBC might be spreading itself out too thin too early. Is it necessary to have PBC on NBC/CBS/Spike/ESPN? Surely it could be more streamlined. They need to build a relationship with the casual viewer. That's how I got into Bellator originally, because of how it was structured and it's only shown on Spike. I think PBC needs to focus on building their brand on NBC/Spike/ESPN: NBC primetime for the big fights, Spike for the mid-tier fights, and ESPN for the prospects and FNF-level match-ups. It could probably be even simpler than that, but Haymon has so many fighters that one channel probably wouldn't be enough.
                    They've got to figure out what works at what time of the day, especially during this three-year initial stretch. Maybe, over two years, Haymon finds out that the afternoon show work on CBS, but not on NBC, and the primetime shows pretty much work everywhere.

                    Deals come due, PBC signs the core content deal with CBS/Showtime and also picks up additional primetime shows on NBC/ESPN/Sp1keTV (depending on how the advertiser numbers end up looking, Haymon may even be open to buying the time again); the core PBC franchise would be on CBS/Showtime, but boxing would also be integrated into the sports coverage for the other parties.

                    no real rush

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                    • Originally posted by Barcham View Post
                      NHL ratings embarrass PBC ratings. As has been repeatedly said, boxing cannot be compared to major league team sports. The money is nowhere near the same and the value of boxing as a whole does not approach the value of ONE major league sports franchise, not to mention the entire league.

                      NHL averages less than a 1 for non playoff or winter classic games, so no they don't. MLS averages more than NHL and their ratings have been stagnate for a decade or more. I don't think the EPL averages more than a 1 either. All have deals worth hundreds of millions.


                      Golf does fine~ tennis does fine~ racing does fine~ mma does ok~ why is boxing the only sport that won't get paid for?

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