Comments Thread For: Tarver Unsure How Mayweather-Khan Sells After Algieri

[FrankieBruno]

Except that money does matter to "Money", and it no longer seems like Khan could bring all that much.

Mayweather(c) vs Brook(c) is an easier fight to market, is likely a better actual fight, and brings more UK money to the table.

You really think Brook vs Floyd wud do better pay per view numbers than Khan vs Floyd?

Khan at least has a name, so that makes marketing the fight that much easier

Brook is very hard to sell, he has no name. I mean if ur a die hard boxing fan, or someone from Sheffield, then yes, but realistically, thats one hard sale.


They can spin whatever angle they like, it's going to be a tough sale to the casuals.

Floyds going to do ****ty numbers regardless, with Khan he might do 800,000 or more, with Brook i dont think they can even do 800,000

Brook aint coming off a huge win, like Maidana

[Box-Office]

Cox Office, get the hell off Khans d1ck man. Like fcuk he's a decent boxer who isn't bad to watch, i like him as a fighter, but he's annoying as hell and you're bouncing and sucking that thing 24/7 and *****ing this joint up man. Go fcuk your ******* with a toliet brush.

Having one of your meltdowns I see.

[aboutfkntime]

All 3 had welterweight titles (Guerrero had the interim).

Khan took the wrong route.

Khan has taken the wrong route continually throughout the last 3 years.

The route of avoiding threats, relying on his name, while waiting for other contenders to beat each other, was the wrong approach..... he needed to fight Brook.

[aboutfkntime]

Khan has taken the wrong route continually throughout the last 3 years.

The route of avoiding threats, relying on his name, while waiting for other contenders to beat each other, was the wrong approach..... he needed to fight Brook.

I really hope that Khan misses out on that Mayweather payday.

[aboutfkntime]

Except that money does matter to "Money", and it no longer seems like Khan could bring all that much.

Mayweather(c) vs Brook(c) is an easier fight to market, is likely a better actual fight, and brings more UK money to the table.

Not sure about that bro.....

No matter how people try to spin it, I am sure that Khan is more popular than Brook, who really only got his career going during the last year-or-so.

But I hope that Khan misses out.

It is not just that he is undeserving, the problem is that he has intentionally avoided risks while waiting for others to fall short.

Fcuk him !

[MRBOOMER]

Instead of worry how their fight is gonna sell. He should worry about selling his **** to pay off that ******** debt lol.

[MRBOOMER]

Not sure about that bro.....

No matter how people try to spin it, I am sure that Khan is more popular than Brook, who really only got his career going during the last year-or-so.

But I hope that Khan misses out.

It is not just that he is undeserving, the problem is that he has intentionally avoided risks while waiting for others to fall short.

Fcuk him !

He was suppose to get sparked out in 2/3 of his last fights everyone had it fifty pretty much. He's more deserving then anyone else at this point plus he has a name. Everyone else has been losing or just got there career going as you said. Ortiz got a shot and so did the ghost and they didn't do **** lol. Except beat berto. I think he should fight broner if he beats Porter.

[aboutfkntime]

He was suppose to get sparked out in 2/3 of his last fights everyone had it fifty pretty much. He's more deserving then anyone else at this point plus he has a name. Everyone else has been losing or just got there career going as you said. Ortiz got a shot and so did the ghost and they didn't do **** lol. Except beat berto. I think he should fight broner if he beats Porter.

NO, he is not !

He performed better than expected, that is all !

The fact that he has avoided Brook, and anyone meaningful, disqualifies him imho. He blatantly avoided Brook and Bradley, and did not even fight the next tier of Thurman/Porter/Maidana/Guerrero.

e.g......
I would rate Garcia ahead of Khan, if it wasnt for Herrera/Salka

He did nothing but avoid meaningful opposition.

Jesus, he selected Algieri, I'm just gonna leave it there.

To be fair, the other guys did the same, I dont think any of them deserve it.

The welters all had time to position themselves for Mayweather in Spetember, but nobody made the move.

I hope he fights Lara or Golovkin at 154. Lara preferrably, as it would be more of a challenge..... failing that, I suppose Cotto for a MW title is the next best.

Shame really because I am not interested in watching Mayweather lame his way to a middleweight title at 155.

[Scipio2009]

You really think Brook vs Floyd wud do better pay per view numbers than Khan vs Floyd?

Khan at least has a name, so that makes marketing the fight that much easier

Brook is very hard to sell, he has no name. I mean if ur a die hard boxing fan, or someone from Sheffield, then yes, but realistically, thats one hard sale.


They can spin whatever angle they like, it's going to be a tough sale to the casuals.

Floyds going to do ****ty numbers regardless, with Khan he might do 800,000 or more, with Brook i dont think they can even do 800,000

Brook aint coming off a huge win, like Maidana

I think that Mayweather-Khan and Mayweather-Brook end up doing similar PPV numbers in the US (after Khan has looked terrible in three out of his five fights above 140, with Virgil's tactics saving him in the Collazo fight), but Matchroom Sport's relationship with Sky and it's ability to put Mayweather-Brook on Sky Box Office generates more money than Khan could get from Frank Warren and Box Nation.

The September fight is Floyd Mayweather Jr's swan song, so it's going to do well regardless of who he fights (with the media getting all of the negative stories out of the way during the Pacquiao build; the build to his last fight will feature a lot more about the Olympics, a look back at the 10 most important fights of his career, the other folks in his life who the boxing public haven't really gotten the chance to know [P-Reala, Frank Brown, Rafael Garcia, Leonard Ellerbee, etc], and maybe even some light shed on the charitable work that he's done when no one was looking [saving the Michigan Golden Gloves, his support for charities in his adopted hometown of Las vegas, quietly paying for the funeral of Genaro Hernandez, etc])

The actual fight would be secondary to the event of Floyd fighting his last fight; only difference is that the boxing writers and diehard fans would actually have a fight to talk about with Brook as the opponent, something that they wouldn't have if Khan was the opponent.

The question with Brook has always been "how 'special' is he really?"; he's blown out every B-level fighter he was put in with and he was able to neutralize Shawn Porter (a fighter that was likely considered at the B+ level when they fought). He walks into the fight with no glaring holes in his game, being the bigger man, and with ten years of youth on his side.

Make the fight announcement late June, and the boxing audience has three months to talk and debate the fight, go back and watch fights that they hadn't seen before, and make their case.

Wouldn't be shocked if Mayweather-Brook approaches doing $150m in total revenue [~$80m on US PPV (1m PPV buys at $70/$80 price point), ~$20m on UK PPV (800,000 PPV buys, though Hatton did 1.4m for his fight with Mayweather, at 16 GBP per PPV, at a $1.53 to the GBP current equivalent), $15m at the live gate (both Maidana fights did over $14m, and that was without the added effect of Brits traveling for the fight), $10m for the remaining international TV deals, and the money from sponsors, closed circuit in Vegas, closed circuit at bars/restaurants/theaters/whatever other revenue should get things close].

Mayweather-Khan not being seen as an even competitive fight kills the fight fan interest in the fight. prevents the sports commentators/writers from talking up that fight in public, which will diminish all the residual effects that come from the attention of an interesting fight, lowering the amount of interest and money coming in from the various streams. Beyond that, I don't see Box Nation putting up the equivalent of even $15m for the fight.

[Scipio2009]

Not sure about that bro.....

No matter how people try to spin it, I am sure that Khan is more popular than Brook, who really only got his career going during the last year-or-so.

But I hope that Khan misses out.

It is not just that he is undeserving, the problem is that he has intentionally avoided risks while waiting for others to fall short.

Fcuk him !

Brook has Sky Box Office and the Sky Sports machine to promote him for the fight (no idea what the ratings or PPV buyrates were since he won the title, but Brook was able to sell out his homecoming fight in Sheffield and headlined a fight bill that seemed to sell out the O2).

Khan has Box Nation (no idea how popular Box Nation is in England, but a boxing-only channel would likely find it tough getting the $20m needed to like compete with what could be generated on Box Office (Ricky Hatton basically did the equivalent of $30m in revenue for his fight on Sky Box Office).

Brook is positioned to bring more money, no matter how popular a fighter who hasn't fought for five years in the UK is supposed to be.