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  • #91
    Originally posted by AgainstTheRopes View Post
    GGG twitter followers: 108k
    Cotto twitter followers: 481k
    Because all serious fans follow boxers twitters.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Crazylegs77 View Post
      Because all serious fans follow boxers twitters.
      We're talking "star power". Twitter followers says something.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Crazylegs77 View Post
        Because all serious fans follow boxers twitters.
        We are in the XXI. century, don't act like the twitter/facebook etc... followers wouldn't reflect their popularity

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        • #94
          Originally posted by daggum View Post
          ggg-monroe attendance 12,300

          cotto-geale attendance 12,100

          ggg purse for monroe:1.5 million

          cotto purse for geale: 2 million

          ggg-monroe peak ratings: 1.47 million

          cotto-rodriguez peak ratings: 1.55 million

          are we as boxing fans living in our own bubbles where we are slow to accept change? maybe people won't buy a ggg ppv? you could say the same about cotto because cotto only fights on ppv when he has a name opponent. so if cotto knows that you need a big name opponent to have a ppv why don't the fans?

          also some people proclaim amir khan is one of boxing biggest stars but look at his last fight. 770k viewers, 7k attendance, 1 million purse. am i missing something? should i follow the numbers or what fans say? is cotto a mega star while ggg is a nobody? is khan a huge star that just doesn't attract any fans/money?
          LOL you went from a comedian to a butt hurt boxing fan

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          • #95
            Originally posted by daggum View Post
            ok lets see he did 350k vs martinez and it was considered a huge flop, 250 vs judah, 200 vs mayorga, jennings about 5, margarito were the only decent ppv buys but that was because of margarito's mexican fanbase(same fanbase that ggg has) anyway if you think 200-300 are great numbers then you wouldn't be in agreement with the very promoters who staged those fights.
            Cut the silly ****. Cotto has 4M+ PPV buys associated with his name, granted only about 25%+ are with him as the A side, but the thing is GGG has 0 PPV buys as the A or B side.

            And no one is saying promoters are having orgies of celebration after every Cotto fight, but there have been more orgies of celebration after Cotto fights than GGG fights like it or not.

            GGG has potential no question about it, but he ain't there yet & he NEEDS Cotto to get there Cotto don't need GGG & that says everything. Quit trying to bs & fake like that **** ain't true. Its wishful thinking at best.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by JmH Reborn View Post
              Cotto's career in a nutshell -- HoF bound

              GGG's career in a nutshell -- still chasing WW and Jr. MW

              Daniel Geale -- a tune up for Cotto

              Daniel Geale -- GGG's greatest pro accomplishment

              Cotto at 34 -- fourth weight class

              Golovkin at 33 -- still in his first class

              Cotto keeps -- moving up in class and beating guys bigger than him

              Golovkin keeps -- running away from Ward and guys who would represent challenges

              Cotto's MW accomplishments -- in two fights greater, than GGGs MW resume

              Golovkin's MW accomplishments -- hinges on beating a washed up former Jr. WW

              Cotto will always be -- greater than GGG

              Golovkin will always be -- a flash in the pan

              Cotto/GGG will look like -- Garcia/Matthyse
              Green K!

              /End Thread

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              • #97
                Originally posted by JmH Reborn View Post
                Cotto's career in a nutshell -- HoF bound

                GGG's career in a nutshell -- still chasing WW and Jr. MW

                Daniel Geale -- a tune up for Cotto

                Daniel Geale -- GGG's greatest pro accomplishment

                Cotto at 34 -- fourth weight class

                Golovkin at 33 -- still in his first class

                Cotto keeps -- moving up in class and beating guys bigger than him

                Golovkin keeps -- running away from Ward and guys who would represent challenges

                Cotto's MW accomplishments -- in two fights greater, than GGGs MW resume

                Golovkin's MW accomplishments -- hinges on beating a washed up former Jr. WW

                Cotto will always be -- greater than GGG

                Golovkin will always be -- a flash in the pan

                Cotto/GGG will look like -- Garcia/Matthyse
                Amen!!! --- Yes!!!

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by bklynboy View Post
                  Except there were few facts there. It's true that a lot of GGG's supporters over rate his accomplishments but his detractors are just as wrong.

                  Cotto's career in a nutshell -- HoF bound - FACT

                  GGG's career in a nutshell -- still chasing WW and Jr. MW - trash talk

                  Daniel Geale -- a tune up for Cotto - true

                  Daniel Geale -- GGG's greatest pro accomplishment - FALSE (Martin Murray)

                  Cotto at 34 -- fourth weight class - FACT

                  Golovkin at 33 -- still in his first class - FACT (but so what?)

                  Cotto keeps -- moving up in class and beating guys bigger than him - FACT

                  Golovkin keeps -- running away from Ward and guys who would represent challenges - trash talk

                  Cotto's MW accomplishments -- in two fights greater, than GGGs MW resume - if Martinez was at full strength you would be correct

                  Golovkin's MW accomplishments -- hinges on beating a washed up former Jr. WW - trash talk

                  Cotto will always be -- greater than GGG - perhaps but conjecture

                  Golovkin will always be -- a flash in the pan - 12 fights of taking out ranked TOP 20 is not a flash in the pan (not saying it's greatness like GGG fans make it out to be)

                  Cotto/GGG will look like -- Garcia/Matthyse - your opinion. For all you know it may be a great fight with GGG winning.
                  The trash talk was to add hilarity to the argument. But it was still factual.

                  -GGG IS looking for fights against Floyd, Canelo and Cotto, all smaller fighters but is not looking up.

                  -Geale was a higher ranked fighter than Murray until he lost to GGG. Also he is a former unified MW champion. Clearly GGG's best win.

                  -GGG IS still in his first weight class

                  -His path to the lineal title IS through a former JWW



                  The only opinion based argument in his post was Garcia/Matthysse comment.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                    What are the gate revenue for these fights? What is GGG's total PPV revenue? It's all about rev.
                    alot of accountants in this thread.

                    So by your logic since Justin Bieber sells more CDs than Miles Davis that makes him better?

                    interesting position.......

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                    • Originally posted by PBP View Post
                      The trash talk was to add hilarity to the argument. But it was still factual.

                      -GGG IS looking for fights against Floyd, Canelo and Cotto, all smaller fighters but is not looking up.

                      -Geale was a higher ranked fighter than Murray until he lost to GGG. Also he is a former unified MW champion. Clearly GGG's best win.

                      -GGG IS still in his first weight class

                      -His path to the lineal title IS through a former JWW



                      The only opinion based argument in his post was Garcia/Matthysse comment.
                      he tried making fights with Chavez and Froch. Got nowhere. (and before you say "ohhhh but Ward doe" everyone knows Ward has been inactive, is now in tuneup mode, and since neither GGG nor Ward can carry the A side of a ppv the revenue does not exist to make the fight)

                      as to your other point, his "path" to the lineal title is through the guy that currently holds it, regardless of that fighters origin.

                      Because if the decade-ago weight of an opponent is so relevant, than the major footnote to Cottos legacy is that he got his face bashed in by a former FLYWEIGHT.
                      Last edited by OnePunch; 06-08-2015, 09:35 AM.

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