Debunking myths 101. Cotto did better than anyone (or most) against Floyd

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  • MRBOOMER
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    #71
    Originally posted by mann187
    Cotto did have good moments in the fight although Mayweather was trading too much but he did better than pacquiao, Pacquiao only had a few rounds against him in a cagey fight.

    Maidana probably did better due to Mayweather cut eye in the first fight.

    Top 5 who troubled Floyd for me are;

    1. Castillo (i thought he lost)
    2. Emmanuel Augustus
    3. Jesus Chavez
    4. Maidana (due to cut eye)
    5. Cotto
    So he did better cause mayweathers eye was cut? And barely bleeding... It couldn't of been his hard punching and pinning Floyd up on the ropes. Nope couldn't have been that.

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    • JJRod
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      #72
      Originally posted by Hype job
      First of all, he didn't. Second of all, he didn't, third of all he is too hittable and landed mainly power jabs. Cotto did worse than Pac.

      Cotto's defence isn't good enough, he's too stationary, has no upper body/head movement and is too slow for Floyd, he cuts the ring off well though I'd give him that.

      There's a very strong anti Pacquiao sentiment on here, because he didn't fight a certain way he doesn't get credit. Truth is Pacquiao put on a defensive masterclass in there and for the most part took away Floyd's right hand, something very hard to do!

      Cotto does no better in the rematch. People are swayed with Floyd, the opponent has to do something "fight his fight" throw dozens of punches. You'll never get credit for making Floyd miss and countering him, because he's assumed to win every fight he doesn't get pressured non stop in.

      These are the facts!
      False.
      Jose Luis Castillo was far and away the only fighter to have a legit argument for beating Floyd. Maidana was the 2nd. Cotto was 3rd. Pac did the same as Guerrero.

      Look at it this way, there is a reason that after the Cotto fight Floyd decided he needed to reunite with his father in order to train him. He felt he wasn't sharp against Cotto.
      Last edited by JJRod; 06-09-2015, 08:42 AM.

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        #73
        Originally posted by JoeKidd
        Why are you guys so proud of those gifs showing how Floyd pushes his "punches"? Or you guys just don't know better?
        Why are you so butthurt about gifts showing great defense and clean punching? Or are you still at stage 3 of your cycle of grief?

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          #74
          Originally posted by JoeKidd
          Why are you guys so proud of those gifs showing how Floyd pushes his "punches"? Or you guys just don't know better?
          His gifs show the wool that's been pulled over our eyes.

          The first one doesn't even land clean and the second one is alright but Pac looks to have got in his last flurry shot.

          Pac's offensive highlights are more impressive!

          That is a fact!

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            #75
            Originally posted by PBP
            Why are you so butthurt about gifts showing great defense and clean punching? Or are you still at stage 3 of your cycle of grief?
            Why can't you find a gif more impressive than the one in my sig? Instead (lol) use one that is a partial chest punch.

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            • Puya
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              #76
              Well maybe is the fact Cotto made Floyd fight the full 3 mins of every round. Most don't admited but Cotto also did very good body work on Floyd
              Last edited by Puya; 06-08-2015, 06:14 PM.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Puya
                Well maybe is the fact that Floyd has to fight the full 3 mins of every round. Most don't admited but Cotto also did very good body work on Floyd
                goof point he did and landed some nice shots upstairs to.

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                • Mike D
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                  #78
                  I actually thought Cotto had a shot at winning that fight after round 8 (I think it was after 8, been a while since I saw that fight)...and then Floyd easily swept the last 4 rounds.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Mike D
                    I actually thought Cotto had a shot at winning that fight after round 8 (I think it was after 8, been a while since I saw that fight)...and then Floyd easily swept the last 4 rounds.
                    Same here. I don't remember my card but I think I had it dead even after 8. Then had Floyd winning 9-12.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by PBP
                      The bargaining stage

                      "Let's compare gifs"

                      Oh really funny..... not.

                      Floyd fans were laughing no matter which round we saw that should have or could have been scored the other way around.

                      Round 3 is the perfect example of a round where a Floyd fan presented gifs which were laughable compared to Manny's offense from that round.

                      Those 2 116-112 scored by the judges could have very easily have been 114-114 or 113-115. Vegas judges favored the Vegas fighter.

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