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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #41
    Originally posted by HEND
    Yes he is officially "injured" I know that, everbody knows that. Then why the fuck Brook namedropped him? That's the question...
    I tell you why because it was just -as I said earlier - a namedrop.
    As for the Collazo fight see my comment above.
    You better watch that Bundu-Gavin fight again. Razor close... lmao...
    Because he wants to fight him. Brook would fight Pacquiao at the drop of a hat -who wouldn't?

    Thurman name drops Pacquiao and others all the time when they're not free to even fight. Then fights Collazo. I troll at times but realistically I have no issue with that because I know Haymon is trying to make Thurman a bigger star and a fight where he'll look good in front of his home crowd on free TV ticks those boxes. Hearn is doing the same with Brook vs. Rios and you complain.

    The only difference is you're a fan of one and not the other. One's a loud brash American and the other is a softly spoken Brit. The bias is obvious between you and the other Yanks on this site such as Hanz Goober etc.
    Last edited by Dirk Diggler UK; 06-05-2015, 11:15 AM.

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    • HEND
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      #42
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Bundu-Gavin was a close fight. They're about the same level of fighter. Euro level. Difference is that Brook dispatched Gavin like the Euro level fighter he was and Thurman failed to impress against Bundu.

      Hearn and Haymon are looking out for the best interests of their own fighters. They've discussed the Brook-Thurman fight and agree it needs to be built because the money isn't there to satisfy both parties. The only difference is Brook has a promoter who actually talks and explains this things. Whereas Thurman doesn't - he just runs his mouth off in public but ultimately answers to his paymaster.

      gtfoh with that talk. "failed to impress". How in the hell he failed to impress when he beat Bundu 120-107? Only "impressive win for you is a knockout? Then do you want me to look up some lesser opponents than Bundu from Brook's career who he didn't knock out therefore I guess "failed to impress"?

      And as for the second part:
      First off: Brook does talk, he said what I mentioned above, he namedropped Rios, Thurman and Pacquiao while everybody knew already that it will be Rios and one day later Hearn told that too... But that's not a felony for me just don't make it up like Brook would be some kind of a saint. I don't like fanboyism. If I can criticise my own favourites I expect the same from others. Nothing is more worthless than argue with somebody who can't argue any self critic in this case self= criticism toward his favourites.
      And of course Thurman "run his mouth" as you said his "promoter" doesn't even give interviews. Everybody needs marketing out of the ring, in Haymon fighter's case, yes they mostly need to do it themselves because Haymon doesn't say a single word to the public which btw is a very annoying habit.

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      • AgainstTheRopes
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        #43
        Hearn claiming Rios is outpricing himself. Guess we'll get Brook vs Jones 3

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        • HEND
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          #44
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Because he wants to fight him. Brook would fight Pacquiao at the drop of a hat -who wouldn't?

          Thurman name drops Pacquiao and others all the time when they're not free to even fight. Then fights Collazo. I troll at times but realistically I have no issue with that because I know Haymon is trying to make Thurman a bigger star and a fight where he'll look good in front of his home crowd on free TV ticks those boxes. Hearn is doing the same with Brook vs. Rios and you complain.

          The only difference is you're a fan of one and not the other. One's a loud brash American and the other is a softly spoken Brit. The bias is obvious between you and the other Yanks on this site such as Hanz Goober etc.
          I'm not even yank, lamo... I'm European buddy. Not everybody is biased based on his country/continent/race or I don't know what. Style is the first for me.

          I can criticise my favourites and I do it if it needed. In this cased I criticised the matchmakers not the fighters on both sides. I criticised Haymon and Hearn not Thurman and Brook. I don't know why you can't realize this and why am I biased. I just argue against you because you can't make any criticism toward Hearn and Brook and I don't like that.

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            #45
            Originally posted by AgainstTheRopes
            Hearn claiming Rios is outpricing himself. Guess we'll get Brook vs Jones 3
            Dirk will gladly buy that ppv so to watch kell "impress"

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              #46
              Originally posted by HEND
              gtfoh with that talk. "failed to impress". How in the hell he failed to impress when he beat Bundu 120-107? Only "impressive win for you is a knockout? Then do you want me to look up some lesser opponents than Bundu from Brook's career who he didn't knock out therefore I guess "failed to impress"?
              Well the fact that the crowd inside the MGM were booing and he basically ran around the ring against a non-punching Euro level fighter shows that he failed to impress and deliver on his pre-fight jive talk of "KOs 4 life baby!". I thought it was an ok performance but he didn't exactly set the world alight. I don't expect KOs to be impressive but this was a certain level of fighter that Thurman should have dispatched.

              Originally posted by HEND
              And as for the second part:
              First off: Brook does talk, he said what I mentioned above, he namedropped Rios, Thurman and Pacquiao while everybody knew already that it will be Rios and one day later Hearn told that too... But that's not a felony for me just don't make it up like Brook would be some kind of a saint. I don't like fanboyism. If I can criticise my own favourites I expect the same from others. Nothing is more worthless than argue with somebody who can't argue any self critic in this case self= criticism toward his favourites.
              And of course Thurman "run his mouth" as you said his "promoter" doesn't even give interviews. Everybody needs marketing out of the ring, in Haymon fighter's case, yes they mostly need to do it themselves because Haymon doesn't say a single word to the public which btw is a very annoying habit.
              Brook was naming fights that he wants. It doesn't mean they have to be next. Like I said, Thurman is one of the biggest name droppers in the business - he was talking about killing Mayweather or whatever before he'd even got in the ring with Bundu ffs.

              Originally posted by AgainstTheRopes
              Hearn claiming Rios is outpricing himself. Guess we'll get Brook vs Jones 3
              Rios has gotten some good paydays recently. Obviously his asking price will be high. It's called negotiating.

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                #47
                Originally posted by HEND
                I'm not even yank, lamo... I'm European buddy. Not everybody is biased based on his country/continent/race or I don't know what. Style is the first for me.

                I can criticise my favourites and I do it if it needed. In this cased I criticised the matchmakers not the fighters on both sides. I criticised Haymon and Hearn not Thurman and Brook. I don't know why you can't realize this and why am I biased. I just argue against you because you can't make any criticism toward Hearn and Brook and I don't like that.
                If you say so. Thurman is listed as one of your favourite fighters. I don't think Hearn and Brook are doing anything wrong neither are Haymon and Thurman. Their doing what's best for their fighters. Hopefully it leads to a big fight between the two at the end of the year or next year.

                My problem is I see people like you, Goober and this other guy go in on Hearn/Brook and especially Goober tries to make it a nationalistic thing. Haymon does the exact same if not worse with his fighters.

                Bradley, another of your favourites who I don't see you criticising, is making similar moves, looking out for his own interests - he turned down Rios and Porter in an IBF eliminator cos he knew Jessie Vargas was an easier fight and he'd still get his guaranteed $2m or whatever they're paying him over there. I don't blame him - I don't go around saying he's ducking and it's "an American thing". That's all in response to Goober's mindless trolling.
                Last edited by Dirk Diggler UK; 06-05-2015, 11:34 AM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by HanzGruber
                  Dirk will gladly buy that ppv so to watch kell "impress"
                  How many of Mayweather's mismatches have you bought over the years?

                  I hope you don't have a family to feed.

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                  • AgainstTheRopes
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    How many of Mayweather's mismatches have you bought over the years?

                    I hope you don't have a family to feed.
                    every fight for Mayweather is a mismatch

                    #TBE

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by AgainstTheRopes
                      Hearn claiming Rios is outpricing himself. Guess we'll get Brook vs Jones 3
                      It's called negotiating tactics.

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