Why can't Pacquiao get the benefit of the doubt from the judges vs. Black opponents?

[Kagami Taiga]

I keep hearing this from Floyd fans, and while I'll be the first one to admit that Manny's offensive output was a shell of what it typically is -- and I'll give Floyd's defensive mastery credit on that -- but the whole Manny fought like a coward theme...can you explain then how you felt like Floyd fought then? I mean considering (if we're going by compubox) Floyd threw virtually the same exact number of punches (I think officially Floyd was credited with 6 more attempted punches)? Floyd also threw in the neighborhood of 70 less power punches, and spent 90% of the fight on his back foot.

So if Manny fought like a "scared coward", how do you explain the other guy in the ring throwing the same number of punches as the scared coward, throwing substantially less in the power department, and fighting backwards for the vast majority of the fight?

Difference being floyd fights how he fights. He always fights that way. Sure he can switch it up if necessary but floyd is floyd. Where was the mammy Pacquiao we were used to? He was not present in that fight. In fact, I've never seen him fight like that.

[The Big Dunn]

and he was so scares of bradley, he called his mom to cast spells on him in the rematch.

lmfao!!!!!!!!!!

[BrushMyCage]

Floyd fought like a smart fighter that had a huge lead. That's the difference. Manny didn't do what we all expected, keep throwing. He seemed confused and unsure of how to land, so he wouldn't press the action. This is part of it.

Manny was way behind and clearly needed a KO. Had he done this with a huge lead I'd have understood. But he needed to throw caution to the wind. Manny never looked like winning the fight was important to him. He never looked like he cared he was losing. He didn't try. That's why I call it cowardly.

Look at the Morales loss. He fought bravely until the end and never quit. He did significant damage in round 12. That was the effort we were looking for. He was behind, but looked like he cared. He wanted desperately to beat Erik.

Did you feel Manny felt like this on May 2nd?

the morales loss was 10 yrs ago..

[SplitSecond]

Judges score swag.

[SplitSecond]

Difference being floyd fights how he fights. He always fights that way. Sure he can switch it up if necessary but floyd is floyd. Where was the mammy Pacquiao we were used to? He was not present in that fight. In fact, I've never seen him fight like that.

That'll happen when one of your rotator cuffs are torn.

[MaD RoBoT]

Difference being floyd fights how he fights. He always fights that way. Sure he can switch it up if necessary but floyd is floyd. Where was the mammy Pacquiao we were used to? He was not present in that fight. In fact, I've never seen him fight like that.

like what Tua said, just because Pac didn't fight "as expected" he automatically lost the round while they gave it to Floyd because he fought the way that was expected of him even though Pac landed clearer punches

Floyd should have the that famous moniker instead of Willie Pep

[Mike D]

Manny didn't do what we all expected, keep throwing. He seemed confused and unsure of how to land, so he wouldn't press the action. This is part of it.

This is true, but I attribute virtually all of that to Floyd's defensive prowess and counter game. Floyd has done it countless times where he makes fighters appear absolutely lost and clueless offensively.

Look at the Morales loss. He fought bravely until the end and never quit. He did significant damage in round 12. That was the effort we were looking for. He was behind, but looked like he cared. He wanted desperately to beat Erik.

Did you feel Manny felt like this on May 2nd?

I don't, no. I was most definitely disappointed in his performance, he didn't sell out nor appear interested in going out on his shield. I'm not going to go as far as saying he fought cowardly because I'm going to give Floyd most of the credit for playing obviously a huge role in Manny appearing that way, but yeah, that said I do know where you're getting at. I think every boxing fan on earth thought that he'd at least attempt to go out on his shield, but in the end he never even came within miles of attempting to do so.

[baya]

hold on, now the pac / floyd fight was close?

[-PBP-]

hold on, now the pac / floyd fight was close?

No it wasn't. It was a landslide victory for Pac. If the judges took off their Lil Wayne headphones, watched the fight in super duper slo mo and stopped giving Floyd so much credit for those clean punches they would have scored it correctly.

[ThatDude44]

Only you would think a guy named Sanchez is black.