Comments Thread For: Shaw: Cotto Beat 'Shot, One-Legged Fighter' in Martinez

[artfuL_]

Shaw is right, Cotto knocked out Sergio the wooden legged Pirate.

[HI-TECH Boxing]

It's Funny that people keep saying GGG has fought nothing but bums, but isn't Sergio Martinez Cotto's biggest win since 2007 (against Mosley, unless you count Clottey as a Class "A" fighter lol)? Martinez is the same guy that went life and death against two of "bums" GGG beat easily (didn't lose a round), which are Martin Murray (many people thought Martinez lost) and Matthew Macklin.

[twrx]

I hate when promoters talk **** about fighters. Promoters today suck so bad at hyping fights. Shaw should be forced to spar with Cotto for 5 rounds & then maybe he'll stfu in the future & just hype a mfing fight.

Will kneeguel want a catchweight for that aswell?

[hitking]

I see you have an issue with reading comprehension, no where did I ever say anyone should massage anyone's balls. All I did was state the reason as to each of the fighter's age in comparison to their resume, I was not justifying GGG's resume I was only stating the facts.

Maybe belts do mean more to me as they are supposed to be the symbol of who the real champion(s) is/are. Like I stated before I do not blame the fighters entirely for the state of the organizations lack of backbone to do what is ethically right by the fans and their own rules but fighters have no problem taking advantage as Cotto is doing. You are correct in that you don't need to hold the belt to know who can fight and who can't but unless fighters actually get into the ring we can only argue and imagine who will win.

At the end of the day, I feel like Cotto has done enough for "the fans" in his career that he's entitled to do whatever he wants. And if he doesn't wanna be a stepping stone for a bigger guy, who's his age, who's spent the last decade fighting guys even the hardest of hardcore fans have to look up on boxrec. While he (Cotto), has spent that same time fighting the best of the best. So be it. And if he wants to "hold the middleweight title hostage", so be it. Its his bargaining chip for one more major payday before he retires.

[hitking]

Golovkin was just a few months into his 22nd birthday, not much older than a teenager. It's rare when 17 or even 18 year olds make it to the Olympics now a days. The youngest boxers are usually 19 or 20.
Getting a Silver Medal is better than getting no medals, you act like not getting a Gold medal is a failure. Even making the Olympics is a huge accomplishment, let alone getting a Silver Medal at the FREAKING Olympics.

Amateur boxing is so corrupt. And the scoring system is so ridiculously ******. I watch it once every four years. And I basically have to force myself to do that. And I doubt I'm alone. So if you win the only competition the majority of people care about. Your "accomplishments" aren't gonna be fully appreciated. If appreciated at all.

[crex.af]

At the end of the day, I feel like Cotto has done enough for "the fans" in his career that he's entitled to do whatever he wants. And if he doesn't wanna be a stepping stone for a bigger guy, who's his age, who's spent the last decade fighting guys even the hardest of hardcore fans have to look up on boxrec. While he (Cotto), has spent that same time fighting the best of the best. So be it. And if he wants to "hold the middleweight title hostage", so be it. Its his bargaining chip for one more major payday before he retires.

That is entirely your own opinion and you are entirely entitled to it, but that is not the major consensus. Most fans spend good money to see good fights and as a fan that does spend good money in watching fights I feel it quite dishonorable to cheat, not only the fans, but other fighters as well just because you think you have done enough. If that's the case then by all means retire or let go of the belt. As an athlete that gets paid millions of dollars at the expense of the fans the athlete will always feel pressure to perform no matter the sport. I can see you are a fan of Cotto or maybe you just dislike GGG, whatever the reason you might have, as a fan, you should never settle for enough. If you are a world class boxer that is ranked #1 then your only job is to fight the #2 and that is what you should be clamoring for. Never give a fighter a pass just because you like him/her or because you are a fan, in fact if you are a fan you should be the one asking for more, after all it is your money and time that is giving that fighter the ability to live a lavish lifestyle and feed his family.

[Beater_of_ass]

You do know cotto lost to trout, and in your words hes a B class fighter. Cotto is fighting geale when he should be fighting GGG or Canelo, end of story.

I know, I'm a realist. Cotto lost to Trout, what's the issue. Cotto also lost to Margarito and won the rematch. I feel Cotto would beat Trout with Roach in the corner. It doesn't mean one loss to a B fighter makes you go down to that level. Floyd is elite, if he fought and loss to GGG he wouldn't become just A level, best of his generation now TBE possibly. Cotto if/when he starts losing constantly to B level fighters is when I know he is no longer A level.

One loss to Trout 2 fights ago and a loss to Geale will change my mind, but he's not losing to Geale or really "struggling" either. He'll lose 3, 4 rounds max.

[HI-TECH Boxing]

Amateur boxing is so corrupt. And the scoring system is so ridiculously ******. I watch it once every four years. And I basically have to force myself to do that. And I doubt I'm alone. So if you win the only competition the majority of people care about. Your "accomplishments" aren't gonna be fully appreciated. If appreciated at all.

There is corruption everywhere (even professional boxing), not just amateur boxing. Amateur boxing has always been corrupt, it's just more noticeable now that the USA doesn't do as well. Fans have a tendency to call out "robbery" if their boxer didn't win, even if the fight is close. We can't fault other countries because their amateur program is better. The USA doesn't do well in amateur boxing anymore, because other countries just got better at boxing. It's even more noticeable in the pros now that more and more foreign fighters are turning pro and doing great in it. People hate change, that's why there seems to be an anti-foreign fighter "fans" (groups) out there that dislike fighters such as GGG. They try to descredit them ever which way. I think people should just like and support a fighter because they like their styles in and outside the ring.

Well I got off topic and into a rant, my bad.

[Public_Enemy]

Cotto did what he had to do. Hindsight is 20/20 but before the fight many people thought Martinez would win. I was one of them.

[whitelightning8]

Many people crap on Cotto for beating Sergio but I don't.
It isn't Cotto's fault Martinez was in no condition.
Cotto went out and took care of business which is all you can ask a fighter.

I'm more disappointed with his recent acts. Saying Canelo hasn't shined when his resume and numbers speak for themselves. As well as saying ggg has a weak resume all the while having a voluntary against someone on ggg's resume.

Weak sauce from Cotto.

I agree with GGG stuff. Anyone who knows me knows I'm a GGG fan though. But while you can't blame Cotto for Martinez injuries and age, I think it's perfectly fair to point out how Cotto avoided him when he was looking awesome in his mid-late thirties and said he would go down to 154 for Cotto. I think Cotto is a very good fighter but I wont ever say he beats a prime Sergio.